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re: Special Needs Student Told To Remove His Varsity Letter

Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by forksup
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:32 pm to
I'm just referring to "you get a ___, you get a ____, everybody gets a ____!!!!" She's a fantastic woman.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:39 pm to
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Grades are completely different than a varsity letter for playing a sport
A student does not earn an A just for showing up to class(except for PE ) and a person does not receive a letter just for showing up to practice.

To a degree they both represent a kid working hard and being rewarded for an achievement. At that point in their lives both are very important.....later in life one is not so important.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19758 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:45 pm to
Yet people are pissed when soldiers call out phonies in the mall.
Posted by forksup
Member since Dec 2013
8817 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:48 pm to
It's supposed to be an accomplishment for doing something. Something this guy didn't do. Of course I see the merit in teamwork, hard work, and sacrifice. There's other rewards for those things both extrinsic and intrinsic. Give him rewards for THOSE EARNED items.

I'm just making a point that it's a letter and it doesn't matter to me, but it matters to those that made the team and the school's sports teams. Why cheapen it?

Yeah, call me shallow again for saying this kid wearing it cheapens a "letter". have the coach or varsity team give him a letter jacket as a gift and I'm completely fine with it.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68536 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:58 pm to
Total dick move.

Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6421 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:59 pm to
Sounds to me like these letter jackets are publicly available. A private citizen spent their own money to buy a publicly available good, and now the school is telling a kid he can't wear something that i doubt is prohibited by the dress code.

This would be no different than LSU prohibiting the general student population from wearing anything football players are given for being on the team.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:14 pm to
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SJW's and the Operas


quote:

I'm just referring to "you get a ___, you get a ____, everybody gets a ____!!!!" She's a fantastic woman.


That's right, ladies and gents! Step right up and see the dumbass social commentary of an imbecile who doesn't know the difference between thematic Italian stories set to song and a daytime talk show host with a penchant for populism found only amongst the very poor and the very rich! Step right up!
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 2:16 pm
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:16 pm to
FYI the link below list the requirements to earn a basketball letter at LSU, actually it list the requirements for each sport. Kind of interesting.

lsusports

Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19960 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:27 pm to
Most of the morons ITT have never experienced having a child with a disability and all of the challenges that come with raising that child. Getting up in the morning, getting dressed and getting to school and doing the "normal" things most people do without thinking about it are a struggle for kids like this on a daily basis.

It's real easy to say with no knowledge of the situation or from personal experience that the kid didn't earn it and the mom shouldn't have ironed on a letter.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61513 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:28 pm to
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t's supposed to be an accomplishment for doing something. Something this guy didn't do. Of


Hey genius, he was BORN with downs syndrome. On the best day of his life he couldn't have made it. He was born with a huge disadvantage. Stop acting like he's been given equal opportunity. Playing basketball is a privilege, not a right. The team needs to step up and support this kid. Perfect situation for the students to learn a lesson on how life is bigger than sports, and they're sending the wrong fricking message . I feel sad for anyone who can't see this. I weep for those whose self-importance over rules others having any hint of belonging.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 2:30 pm
Posted by StormTiger
Norwich, England (from Texas)
Member since Dec 2003
4895 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:30 pm to
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ey genius, he was BORN with downs syndrome. On the best day of his life he couldn't have made it. He was born with a huge disadvantage. Stop acting like he's been given equal opportunity. Playing basketball is a privilege, not a right. The team needs to step up and support this kid. Perfect situation for the students to learn a lesson on how life is bigger than sports, and they're sending the wrong fricking lesson. I feel sad for anyone who can't see the issue here.


Good post to end the thread on.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 2:32 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61513 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:32 pm to
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A student does not earn an A just for showing up to class(except for PE ) and a person does not receive a letter just for showing up to practice


Sports are not as important as school. how do you not realize this? ? What do you tell your kids if you have kids? Holy shite man.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30434 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:36 pm to
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I feel for the mom and the kid, but you shouldn't be able to just buy a varsity letter,


Sure you should It is the most worthless accomplishment out there, and I bet there are bench warmers that have letters that don't work as hard as this kid. A varsity letter? who gives a shite?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61513 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:40 pm to
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ure you should It is the most worthless accomplishment out there, and I bet there are bench warmers that have letters that don't work as hard as this kid. A varsity letter? who gives a shite?


Student managers who carry equipment get varsity letters. I think letter jackets are worthless. Question : Have you ever seen any top flight high school basketball prospect wearing his letter jacket? ??? I wonder why, maybe because his abilities are the accomplishment, not the fricking thing he wears when he's not even on a basketball court.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30434 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:42 pm to
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Student managers who carry equipment get varsity letters. I think letter jackets are worthless. Question : Have you ever seen any top flight high school basketball prospect wearing his letter jacket? ??? I wonder why, maybe because his abilities are the accomplishment, not the fricking thing he wears when he's not even on a basketball court.


Exactly. They hand them out like candy for all the sorry sophomores who saw 2 plays all year. It's not like they pushed aside and gave the kid the valedictorian spot.
Posted by NorthReb
Michigan
Member since Jul 2013
547 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:46 pm to
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Most of the morons ITT have never experienced having a child with a disability and all of the challenges that come with raising that child. Getting up in the morning, getting dressed and getting to school and doing the "normal" things most people do without thinking about it are a struggle for kids like this on a daily basis. It's real easy to say with no knowledge of the situation or from personal experience that the kid didn't earn it and the mom shouldn't have ironed on a letter.
Nope they haven't.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 3:04 pm to
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Sports are not as important as school. how do you not realize this? ? What do you tell your kids if you have kids? Holy shite man.
Regardless of what you think, sports are a very important PART of high school and sports also teach life lessons. In many parts of the country most of the town residents show up to support the local high school football team on Friday nights. It's not just about sports it's about community pride.

I have kids, one in college and one in high school. Both play(ed) sports. I always told them academics come first and my academic requirements were tougher than the schools.

My youngest son wants to play football in college and I told him that's great. I also told him the better his grades the more opportunities he will have.

You can apply a lot of life's lessons from playing sports, from Little League baseball to high school football.

Believe it or not big companies like hiring kids who played varsity sports in college.....why?......because it proves these kids not only achieved in the class room but they also achieved outside of the classroom. They learned about competing and working together as team. They learn about waiting their turn to start or about out working someone to take their spot.

I would never say sports are as important as education, but you are wrong in thinking that sports are not important in developing life skills.

Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61513 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 3:14 pm to
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My youngest son wants to play football in college and I told him that's great. I also told him the better his grades the more opportunities he will have.

You can apply a lot of life's lessons from playing sports, from Little League baseball to high school football.

Believe it or not big companies like hiring kids who played varsity sports in college.....why?......because it proves these kids not only achieved in the class room but they also achieved outside of the classroom. They learned about competing and working together as team. They learn about waiting their turn to start or about out working someone to take their spot.

I would never say sports are as important as education, but you are wrong in thinking that sports are not important in developing life skills.



Never said they weren't important. They're just not so important that they take precedence over other things like disadvantaged persons being allowed to have something that is pretty much impossible for them to have. Not only in sports, but this disadvantaged person will likely not be able to experience many things others not with his condition will experience.


quote:

You can apply a lot of life's lessons from playing sports, from Little League baseball to high school football.



Yes, but not the lesson that sports are not in themselves what's truly important .

Good for your kids btw. Big companies may hire those types, but I know they'd still hire non-varsity athletes. Besides, if you're talking about HIGH SCHOOL varsity sports participation signifcantly effecting future employment then I just think I'm going to have to laugh. That's a horrible view to have.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 3:23 pm to
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Believe it or not big companies like hiring kids who played varsity sports in college.....why?
the CEO is a booster and a fan?

Because companies don't give two shits about what sports you played, unless it's part of your occupational qualification

Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19960 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 3:27 pm to
I've never had someone ask me my competitive sports background in an interview. Alot of times, I see people who played sports thinking this was more important than having the skills to do a job. That's great you played football at Lambuth 4 years ago. What can you do now?
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