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Posted on 3/27/15 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 7:52 pm to
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Fans see the players in small windows, whereas coaches see them all the time. It's like people see a guy with a hot woman and always think he must have it made. Well you don't know what she's like all the time. You don't have all of the information.


If that is true, why was Josh Reed sitting the bench, while Dinardo was using third team QB, Craig Nall and a walkon QB as Wide Receivers. He saw Reed catch passes as a running back, everyday in practice. I only got to watch Reed in the spring game, catch a pass coming out of the backfield, and knew he was a better option. It was not until late in the season that Booty suggested to Dinardo that Reed switch positions. In his first game, vs Alabama, Reed was the leading receiver. The rest is history.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:15 pm to
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Miles is such an idiot. 


He has an economics degree from one of the best universities in the country.
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His personal doghouse takes priority over what is best for the team and many of you still defend him. 


Holy shite.
How dare a fan base defend a coach that has a top 5 win % in sec history,the #1 ooc win % in sec history, and just gave LSU its most successful 10 year stretch in lsu history. LSU has 11 ten win seasons in our entire history and MILES HAS 7 OF THEM.
Since his hire, no program has been ranked in the top 25 more than LSU. In Miles' 10 year stretch,LSU has finished in the top 15 6 times( we finished 17 one year that i didn't count).
I HATE OUR IGNORANT AND ENTITLED FAN BASE.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:23 pm to
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Yeah we saw that for the whole 4 quarters of 21-0. JJ was just one play away from getting past the 50 yd line 


This is such a bullshite argument. Did you even watch that game on 1/9? Our oline was getting man handled and your solution is to put in a LESS MOBILE qb thats doesnt handle pressure well and has a career 1 td-7int against bama.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:27 pm to
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Miles plays to not lose more so than to win since Lee's freshman year. Ruined as a coach


Ruined? Do you just post statements without having any knowledge about that subject? Since Lee's freshman year, LSU has finished in the 15 every year but once( 1 year was 17th).
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:29 pm to
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Those that cant see that Miles has a doghouse are Miles homers, and not LSU fans



Youve already established that you dont know shite about cfb.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:31 pm to
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Miles BLEW that game and T-Bob Hebert said it himself. The o-line was pissed that Miles wouldn't give Lee a chance cause JJ was not even their in the head that night.....


No he didnt. TBob said that nothing like that happened. Stop making shite up.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:32 pm to
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Bob never said that. He says they got beat, plain and simple. 


Exactly. TBob has said ,repeatedly, that there was no internal argument about the qbs.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204221 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:59 pm to
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( we finished 17 one year that i didn't count).


Why not>????? Bottom Line is Miles went 8-5 last year.. He sucks at qb develpememnt... He was plainly outcoached on 1/9...
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26767 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 8:59 pm to
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I hope the kid is an AA, but arm strength doesn't make the QB. I will be perfectly happy with a QB who can complete the 15-25 yd pass 60% of the time.

There is so much more to being a successful SEC QB than throwing the ball 60 yds. imo


I know all of that, I was responding to Dukke's laughing at his arm strength and mobility. The kid has a laser and quick feet, the best ways I could describe him where people could get a good visual.

I've also already stated that Jennings can do well in this offense if he improved his accuracy and decision making, but because of his limited arm strength, he can only go so far. Watch Mettenberger play in 2013, a lot of his passes required a strong arm, and that's the type of QB (with some added mobility) that will bring out the true potential of this offense.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 9:09 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:03 pm to
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Those that cant see that Miles has a doghouse are Miles homers, and not LSU fans


most folks have a doghouse, it's typically the dog's fault he ended up there, not the owner of the house...
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:37 pm to
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He sucks at qb develpememnt... He was plainly outcoached on 1/9


He developed 3 qbs that had decent years. JJ ,Jlee, and mett.
Even your sweetheart Saban gets out coached.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:52 pm to
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He developed 3 qbs


More than 3. One has to be blind, stupid, or both to be unable to see development in JM between 05 and 06.

JR 05:
CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD INT RAT
188 311 2443 60.5 7.86 15 9 136.6

JM
CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD INT RAT
232 342 3129 67.8 9.15 28 8 167.0


Same can be said for MF between 06 and 07. Same can be said for RP during his time here and JL and JJ and Mett. The all showed development/improved play from their start to their end at LSU.



This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 11:01 pm
Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 10:54 pm to
Although ALA was thought of as a Pro-Style team, in 2014 they were a full-blown HUNH, shotgun, spread offense: Breaking Down Alabama's Spread Offense Under Kiffin

Expanding on earlier comments about how Saban went 85% HUNH after hiring a retired Oregon OC as a consultant, Kiffin, and putting Blake Sims in the shotgun: The results had him ranked #1 with one loss, because he is St. Nick. It was very entertaining to watch Kiffin celebrating a TD as soon as he got the alignment he wanted and the ball was snapped. That, plus coaching from the sideline to calm Sims was impressive. Saban's protesting HUNH as dangerous, while he knew it was safer and tactically advantageous, has kept him relevant.

The Crimson Tide fired off an SEC-high 1,018 plays on offense — 192 more than the previous season (which is like having an extra three games to score.) More snaps equaled better production, notably in the passing game. Alabama’s 6,783 total yards of offense was the most in the Saban era. He gave up a record number of pts and yds in the Iron Bowl and still won by being more efficient in his fewer trips to the red zone and not having to kick FGs.

Blake Sims was the top ranked QB in the SEC and had 7 rushing TDs

Blake Sims 252-for-391 (64.5 percent) 3,487 yards, 28 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 7 rushing TDs.
vs
Jennings 111-for-127 (48.9%) 1,611 yds, 11 TDs, 7 INTs, 0 rushing TDS

Amari Cooper had more receptions (124) than AJ had completions and more yds, 1727.

It is very encouraging news from the scrimmages about the passing game and Miles saying the offense is enjoying more pace. (Cam was fired in 2012 from Baltimore with only 3 games left before their Super Bowl win, the day after he blew up in a fight with Flacco, for inadequate use of HUNH, using TEs instead of spreading the field with 3 or more WRs, playcalling, and not coaching from the sideline. His receiver utilization was described as from a bygone era.) The 2013 Ravens had a 40/60 run/pass ratio with 86% of the plays from the shotgun, a modern offense.


Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:00 pm to
LF7 talks about the maturity and skills of Harris

LF7 on BH; He has matured, calling the blitzes for our RBS, knows when to check it down, knows a lot of coverages. (Things are working better with him in?) Yes. He knows the right defenses, the right plays to call, when the defenses are switching. (Are you catching more passes) Yes, our route tree developed a lot, it is a lot larger than last year (from no checkdowns and staring down Dural or the primary) and with everyone playing over top (passing) we (RBs) are right there waiting for the checkdown. (big smile: Getting the ball in space means he is one on one and not going to be gang tackled like last year. He was taking so many vicious hits I know he had to have suffered sub-concussive or concussive blows. Especially the non-called "cowboy collar" Reuben Foster targeting hit that put him out for 3 weeks.) The spread and up tempo have far fewer concussions and produce better running by RBs and QBs without the risk of injury because of the wide open spread. That is how Nick Marshall, Mariotta, Kaepernick, Wilson and many prolific option QBs run without injury. Harris 1048 yds and 15 TDs as a Senior and rushed prolifically for his 4 years at Parkway without injury and was very hard to bring down. He looks much bigger, stronger, and faster.




Reuben Foster Targeting Hit - Concussive Blow?
The mouthpieces LSU wears measures the concussive blows in G forces. Those at highest risk are OL and RBs and it is many times higher in practice than on the field. Concussion is something Miles mentioned when reviewing the second scrimmage and then quickly amended it to contact injuries. Only 1 in about 50 to 100 concussions are reported. Watch Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel. Half of all NCAA Div 1 football players suffer effects. Remember Josh Williford? That was in practice.

So, Harris is running the offense really well and the RBs, with great hands, are pulling in check down swing passes in space. That is explains why LF7 is running wild and how he will likey best Jeremy Hill. Very Promising. Great Video.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:19 pm to
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Blake Sims was the top ranked QB


BS has been at Bama since 2011.

Comparing him to LSU QB who were both pressed into roles as a starter in their Tr. Fr. seasons is more than a tad silly. imo

Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:51 pm to
That was absolutely not even close to the point. It was the modern offensive change made in one year to stay relevant. But now that you bring it up lets do the comparison of RS FR first year starters: By these metrics Harris should win the Heisman and NC.


Quarterback Revolution: New QBs are winning big in college football



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New starting quarterbacks aren't just winning accolades. They're winning national championships at a nearly unprecedented rate


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Five of the final seven BCS championships were won by first-year starters: Florida State's Jameis Winston, Alabama's AJ McCarron, Auburn's Cam Newton, Alabama's Greg McElroy and LSU's Matt Flynn. First-year starters won just two of the first nine BCS titles (Ohio State's Craig Krenzel and Tennessee's Tee Martin). Add in Notre Dame's Everett Golson, Oregon's Darron Thomas, Ohio State's Todd Boeckman and Auburn's Marshall, and nine of the past 14 quarterbacks to play for the national title were first-year starters. By comparison, only five of the 18 quarterbacks who played for a national championship from 1998 to 2006 were in their first year as a starter. Another way to think of it: Over the past 50 years, 60 percent of the Associated Press champions were led by a returning quarterback, yet 71 percent of the champions since 2007 have had a first-year starter under center.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18972 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 12:20 am to
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Although ALA was thought of as a Pro-Style team, in 2014 they were a full-blown HUNH, shotgun, spread offense:


Why do people insist on thinking the differences in spread & pro style offenses are only based off of formations?

You can still have an offense that operates out of the pistol/shotgun a large percentage of the time & still be pro style. A pro style offense is more about the responsibilities of the QB, center, RB's & Wr's. All responsible for certain adjustments presnap according to "keys" that are given away by the defense's alignment. QB's & Wr's may have to adjust routes according to coverage. The center has to recognize stunts or blitzes & give the other lineman their responsibilities depending on where the pressure is coming from. RB backs have to know this as well in order to pick up any free blitzer that the lineman cannot get numbers wise. While Alabama may have used a higher percentage of pistol/shotgun, multiple receiver sets, the responsibilities of the players didn't change. They were still a pro style offense.

People also seem to think that one back, multiple receiver sets that operates with a fast pace out of the shotgun is something new but the Buffalo Bills were doing this in the late 80's early 90's with their K Gun offense.

Buffalo Bills K Gun Offense

Both the K Gun & the modern spread offenses are just versions of the run & shoot. The biggest difference in the K Gun vs Run & Shoot is that the Bills wouldn't huddle at times during the game, deciding to go hurry up. The modern spread takes concepts from both but adds the elements of the pistol formation, read option & check with me audibles from the sidelines. The term spread came about from the offensive linemen splits which are wider in most spread formations. The more traditional pro style offenses operate with tigher line splits. You will see the use of both style of splits across both offenses though depending on down, distance & in game situation.

LINK

In pro style, the players have more on field responsibilities to make the proper adjustments while in true spread offenses, all the presnap adjustments come from the sidelines. The term spread offense has nothing to do with spreading the field WR's. It's basically hooked on phonics for offensive players.
This post was edited on 3/28/15 at 12:55 am
Posted by Quid Pro Quo
SEC
Member since Dec 2013
541 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 12:30 am to
A couple of posters have singled out the Harris 56 yd laser to Chark for Harris scrambling left, then back to the pocket, claiming anything from he left the pocket too soon or that in live play he would have been tackled by either Sione or Trey L. That is your opinion. Harris and the 18,000 people who viewed this since I first posted it last week, likely do not agree, 10,000 of those were today.

First, Cam has instituted an Offensive Scramble Rule just like they have in the NFL and with Ore, Aub, and read-option offenses. This is to maximize the threat of the scrambling QB and keep everyone engaged in the play, OL, WRs, TEs, and RBs. Harris spent 1 second following his blockers left and spun on a dime and left Sione lunging out of the play and the OL on both sides kept blocking. When he came back to the center of the pocket he had a wide open field to run, checkdown, or throw the TD. Trey was blocked, and Harris looked composed. It is my favorite play too because he looks tall, strong, fast, no one was near him, and he threw a perfect strike past KTII, and apparently is continuing to "Make big plays with his arm and feet" per Miles.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18972 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 12:39 am to
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New starting quarterbacks aren't just winning accolades. They're winning national championships at a nearly unprecedented rate


These is a meaningless stance & statistic as well. How many of these quarterbacks already had multiple years on their respective campuses or were JUCO/regular transfers? The most important aspect of developing quarterbacks has nothing to do with game reps. It has everything to do with practice reps where an offensive coach can correct & form good habits like making the proper read according to offensive formation & defensive coverage, in a controlled setting. Once the right actions become second nature on the practice field, those same actions are going to follow a player onto the field when the bullets start flying for real. This is a concept that a large portion of fanbase can't seem to grasp & that live game reps are meaningless for a quarterback especially when going on the field doing the wrong things. It can also be detrimental & stunt a young quarterbacks growth.The key is having succession system in place at quarterback as to where you aren't starting quarterbacks who have only been on a college campus for a few months.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:06 am to
Same bullshite every time around this time of the year! I'll believe it when I see it down on the field in real game time situations. Not the crap you clowns start all the time this time of the year. All I want is for Cameron to earn his money and work these kids hard and finally make them bigtime QB's in a bigtime conference where the end results matter most.
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