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How is NC State's low post play?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:17 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:17 am
just curious if anybody has any insight?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:24 am to Ignignot
Not much production from any of our four main bigs. From time to time one of them will have a really good game, but their job is mostly defensive and helping draw defenders to create shots for our guards.
Abu can be pretty good offensively sometimes. Anya is mostly all about dunks, put backs, etc. Washington has never seen a shot he didnt like, including 3s, which is why hes been riding the bench so much. Freeman is about the same as anya.
They do their best when Barber can drive and dish to them right under the basket really
Abu can be pretty good offensively sometimes. Anya is mostly all about dunks, put backs, etc. Washington has never seen a shot he didnt like, including 3s, which is why hes been riding the bench so much. Freeman is about the same as anya.
They do their best when Barber can drive and dish to them right under the basket really
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:25 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:24 am to Ignignot
Probably a little underrated, but they rely heavily on their guards. The primary forwards are 6'8" and 6'9". Should be advantage LSU
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:24 am to Ignignot
I bet on NC State a few games this season, here's my insight:
-Really good guards led by Trevor Lacey and something Turner.
-Play good on ball defense.
-No real dominant big man. A few 6'8"-6'9" guys, but none of them are big scorers.
-I expect LSU to try and win down low, while NC State keep it outside. Definitely think LSU is the more complete team all around, but NC State can be dangerous if they get their guards going early
-Really good guards led by Trevor Lacey and something Turner.
-Play good on ball defense.
-No real dominant big man. A few 6'8"-6'9" guys, but none of them are big scorers.
-I expect LSU to try and win down low, while NC State keep it outside. Definitely think LSU is the more complete team all around, but NC State can be dangerous if they get their guards going early
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:26 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:25 am to Alt26
Yeah, from what I've seen of State, they'll go as far as Barber, Lacey and Turner take them. Definitely more perimeter-oriented.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:26 am to Ignignot
They are very young in the front court with no dominant players.
Primary rotation is two guys who are 6'8 and two guys who are 6'9. They do have a guy who is 6'9 300 pounds.
NCST is a very guard oriented team. Lacey, Turner and Barber do most of the scoring. Those 3 alone account for about 60% of the points for NCST. They don't have a big who plays more than 20 minutes a game.
Primary rotation is two guys who are 6'8 and two guys who are 6'9. They do have a guy who is 6'9 300 pounds.
NCST is a very guard oriented team. Lacey, Turner and Barber do most of the scoring. Those 3 alone account for about 60% of the points for NCST. They don't have a big who plays more than 20 minutes a game.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:27 am to Ignignot
They rely heavily on guards for production. Their big men are there for rebounds and defense. They shouldn't give us a problem, but if mickey consistently gets out of position, they will crush us with offensive rebounds. It just all depends on what LSU team shows up, and I have no idea who it will be. I compare NCState to Ole Miss in terms of their guards and big men. Not style of play or anything
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:30 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:29 am to YouAre8Up
Actually, Bowers for Auburn is better than any big man NCSU has...thanks for playing, though
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:30 am to thunderbird1100
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They don't have a big who plays more than 20 minutes a game.
I mean, maybe no one averages that, but there will definitely be someone who plays 20+ minutes. If anya plays well he will be 20-30. Its also dependent on foul trouble. It just depends game to game.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:31 am to WilliamTaylor21
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-I expect LSU to try and win down low
Whenever LSU loses, they didn't go down low. Or they did and missed a ton of free throws. Limit the turnovers and it should be an LSU W. Very difficult opening round matchup, then if you win that you have to play #1 Nova in their home state. Would much rather have had a 10 seed.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:34 am to WilliamTaylor21
They don't turn the ball over much but don't force many turnovers either. LSU really needs to eliminate boneheaded turnovers and get Mickey blocking again. If we can manage that, we should win.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:36 am to LSU Patrick
LSU playing good perimeter and on the ball defense is more important than Mickey blocking.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:47 am to thunderbird1100
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NCST is a very guard oriented team. Lacey, Turner and Barber do most of the scoring. Those 3 alone account for about 60% of the points for NCST. They don't have a big who plays more than 20 minutes a game.
I wouldn't be shocked to see NC St. zone LSU. The Tigers have the clear advantage in the frontcourt. Hopefully Mickey wakes up and Martin continues to play with fire.
They have the advantage on the perimeter, but I've thought all season that LSU's guards are a bit underrated. LSU has been in a lot of close games this year and it's generally been the guards, not M&M, who have made big shots. Should be some fun matchups
Lacey v. Quarterman - Lacy is a Sr. with a thick build, but he is 3" shorter than TQ. Can Quarterman's length affect him?
Turner v. Hornsby - two guys who can score but in different styles. Turner is very smooth, almost lethargic at time. Hornsby is anything but smooth (see his jumper) but no one out-works him. Plus, as a white dude he doesn't get the respect he deserves for being such an explosive athlete. Turner has a 1" height advantage. Both are veteran players
Barber v Patterson - Barber was rolling late in the year and comes in probably as State's hottest player. He will be tough. Patterson has flown under the radar to become a big-time player for LSU. It seems like every shot he hits is in a big spot. Barber is a little bigger and probably more athletic than Patterson, but nothing has seemed to overwhelm Patterson this year. I don't expect that to change in the tournament
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:51 am to Alt26
People will hate that I say this, but what Josh Gray do we get? Everyone wants to shite on him and act like we don't need him, but if he's playing well we are extremely difficult to beat...by anyone. If he sucks like in 2/3 of the games, we can lose to anyone. I'm assuming when he comes in he will have to guard Barber. Also, what are NCSU's backup guards like?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:53 am to Alt26
It seems that this game will come down to our perimeter defense. Which doesn't exactly flood me with confidence. That said, this isn't a terrible matchup for LSU. M&M should have no problem staying out of foul trouble. Hornsby and TQ will have to really be shooting sharp, though. Josh Gray disappoints more than he pleases; probably a non factor. (Saying this so he of course will turn in the game of his life.)
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 9:56 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:08 am to Minnesota Tigah
Our perimeter defense is actually a lot better than our interior defense. This is a better matchup for us than many teams
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:26 am to LSUButt
Completely agree. We have done well against perimeter orientated offensive teams all season. Stefan Moody shot like 20% against us.
I think Josh Gray will be extremely important in this game- I doubt Patterson will be able to consistently stay in front of Barber.
I think Josh Gray will be extremely important in this game- I doubt Patterson will be able to consistently stay in front of Barber.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 10:29 am to Ignignot
Watched NC State play 4 or 5 games this year (2 against UVA). Turner and Lacey can heat up and allow them to beat anyone, but their most dynamic and important player is Barber by a long shot. He's as quick as any guard in the country and can catch fire from outside as well. If you limit his penetration, they are quite beatable. If he drives and dishes all game, including kick outs to Turner and Lacey, they can be a nightmare.
Both games against UVA were close and low scoring and Barber was largely ineffective in each. Because he couldn't consistently drive the lane, they had almost zero offensive production from their bigs in either game.
Limiting Barber is priority #1. Makes their other guards create their own shots and eliminates offensive threats from the front court.
Also, Turner still hates to play defense and he can still be frustrated easily by a solid defender. UVA put Nolte on him for most of the second game at least and Nolte limited him pretty effectively. Nolte, while a solid defender, is not the most athletic guy in the world, and yet made Turner a non-factor.
Both games against UVA were close and low scoring and Barber was largely ineffective in each. Because he couldn't consistently drive the lane, they had almost zero offensive production from their bigs in either game.
Limiting Barber is priority #1. Makes their other guards create their own shots and eliminates offensive threats from the front court.
Also, Turner still hates to play defense and he can still be frustrated easily by a solid defender. UVA put Nolte on him for most of the second game at least and Nolte limited him pretty effectively. Nolte, while a solid defender, is not the most athletic guy in the world, and yet made Turner a non-factor.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 11:05 am to Minnesota Tigah
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-I expect LSU to try and win down low
Huge misnomer around here in how we score in the post. We don't have a guy who can post up and score with his back to the basket . Our post points mostly come from put backs and transition buckets. We must get a bunch of both this game to offset the better guard play that NCST possesses .
-I expect LSU to try and win down low
Huge misnomer around here in how we score in the post. We don't have a guy who can post up and score with his back to the basket . Our post points mostly come from put backs and transition buckets. We must get a bunch of both this game to offset the better guard play that NCST possesses .
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