The starter did return. He just didn't start the next year (other than the 2 games Lee actually did start in 2009) because he got beaten out by someone else (who also started 2 games the previous year, comparable to Jamarcus Russell the year before 2005, which somehow made the list). That means we should have been in an even better position. And Jordan Jefferson didn't start the first 9 games of 2011, so why is that year on the list?

2008 starter returns in 2009 but only starts 2 games = no returning starter.

2010 starter returns in 2011 but only starts 5 games = returning starter.

There's no rational basis for treating those two years differently. If 2011 is on the list, 2009 should be. OP is simply twisting the facts to make a point that is not there.

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And anyone with a brain knows you would rather return a starter, at any position, than not

We DID return a starter. We didn't use him because we found someone EVEN BETTER than the RETURNING STARTER.

Are you this obtuse?

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Posted by OceanMan

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Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:03 am to Nuts4LSU

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We DID return a starter. We didn't use him because we found someone EVEN BETTER than the RETURNING STARTER.

Are you this obtuse?

Are you? You are seriously trying to argue semantics here. I think that, historically speaking, returning players at a position yields better results than the previous year. This has been the case for LSU in the past decade. Rather than argue that point, you pose this straw man argument around what qualifies as a returning starter.

However, you neglect that in 2009, regardless of which starter returned, we did in fact improve from 2008, and continued that trend of improvement until we started another QB that had no previous starts on the team. The last time we had to do that was 2008, which was the worst record in that span.

What you are arguing is ridiculous. It has no merit to the point being made, and you are calling people out for being obtuse. No, im not obtuse, your argument is just not relevant, I dont care if you think you are correct.

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Posted by chilge1

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Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:25 pm to Nuts4LSU