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re: The Myth that LSU Cannot Develop QBs
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:11 pm to chilge1
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:11 pm to chilge1
quote:Actually that would not even be accurate since the rest of those numbers accounted for a "team" statistics so I am sure other QB's were lower....
So his 1.7 sacks per game would be the 3rd best in Miles's tenure, not 1st.
2014: Jennings 22 in 227 pass attempts
2013: Mett 21 in 296 pass attempts
2012: Mett 32
2011: Lee 4 sacks/ Jefferson 14 sacks (Lee more pass attempts) total 267 pass attempts
2010: Jefferson 18 sacks 209 pass attempts
2009: Jefferson 34 sacks
Can't go back and check 2008....
So I make shite up but you can claim that Jennings has had the least amount of sacks of the Les Miles era
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:19 pm to tduecen
Guilty. That was total bullshite. 
Either way, it's at least no worse than any other. You're also comparing Jennings's sophomore year to three Seniors and two Juniors.
Jefferson in 2009 had "more than his share" of sacks.
You can say that you just don't like Jennings. It's okay.
Either way, it's at least no worse than any other. You're also comparing Jennings's sophomore year to three Seniors and two Juniors.
Jefferson in 2009 had "more than his share" of sacks.
You can say that you just don't like Jennings. It's okay.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:23 pm to chilge1
I don't really have any opinion of Jennings, I do think Harris is the better player and should have been given more playing time.
If Jennings can get to the Jefferson level it will be an improvement at this point though.
If Jennings can get to the Jefferson level it will be an improvement at this point though.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:35 pm to tduecen
If Jennings plays like 2009 or 2011 Jefferson we'll win the SEC. So tired of people acting like he's already hit his ceiling.
Welter started over Beckwith for a year and a half while he was converting from a DE to MLB.
Harris is learning a much more complex position and has only been playing football since 2012. Jennings was the right choice last year.
Welter started over Beckwith for a year and a half while he was converting from a DE to MLB.
Harris is learning a much more complex position and has only been playing football since 2012. Jennings was the right choice last year.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:43 pm to Mike Linebacker
Not one of those QBs for LSU was a superstar. Flynn, Mettenberger, and Russell were the best of that group. One won a championship. Mettenberger was good enough to win a title but the defense was lackluster in 2013 and 2012 coaching failed like they usually do. An average QB and LSU wins in 2011. That was the only missing piece that year. Hell, they won 13 games with no QB. Jordan Jefferson was a bum and was never going to amount to anything. Miles should have known this, yet he wasted 3+ years of championship talent. And he is currently doing the same thing with the two QBs he has now.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:55 pm to chilge1
You have stated over and over that the coaching staff is somewhat blameless. I am willing to give Harris more time. School is still out on his potential.
At the same time, there is no way to justify keeping Beck out as long as they did. Also, isn't 14 games enough to get the best out of Jennings. I can't feel good about Cameron's development of him. Either he does not get it or Cameron can't get through to him.
At the same time, there is no way to justify keeping Beck out as long as they did. Also, isn't 14 games enough to get the best out of Jennings. I can't feel good about Cameron's development of him. Either he does not get it or Cameron can't get through to him.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:02 pm to lakelanier
School is still out on Harris, on Jennings, and on Cameron. If we gave up on every QB or coordinator after one shite year, we'd never have the same QB/OC two years in a row.
You must not remember how badly out of position he was in his first 2014 action.
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At the same time, there is no way to justify keeping Beck out as long as they did.
You must not remember how badly out of position he was in his first 2014 action.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:07 pm to crookedicat
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Hell I guess we have no problem at QB and never have...what am I thinking?
I have no idea what you are thinking, or even if you are thinking. That you aren't bright is evident. But, outside of that, Mett was not very good at all for the majority of his first year starting. He improved dramatically his second year. Either he developed himself, or he was developed...either way, he showed significant improvement year to year.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:11 pm to chilge1
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2011 Jefferson we'll win the SEC
please god no. Please don't tell me he was good in 2011. Lee started for most of the year, until Les got his boy back in there. Then, do you actually remember the Arkansas and Georgia games? And I'm not even going to mention the Alabama game. The first two games changed due to defense/special teams....I don't remember JJ's stats for the first half of each game, but they were embarrassing.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:11 pm to chilge1
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2011 Jefferson we'll win the SEC
please god no. Please don't tell me he was good in 2011. Lee started for most of the year, until Les got his boy back in there. Then, do you actually remember the Arkansas and Georgia games? And I'm not even going to mention the Alabama game. The first two games changed due to defense/special teams....I don't remember JJ's stats for the first half of each game, but they were embarrassing.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:44 pm to chilge1
The problem is all three had a shite year at the same time, let's hope that is coincidence. I think there is a problem with player utilization and I hope the new staff members on defense can improve that side of the ball and influence Miles and Cameron to some extent.
I am not trying to find fault with everything you have brought up, but I think you give little credibility to anybody who questions these points. Time will tell.
I am not trying to find fault with everything you have brought up, but I think you give little credibility to anybody who questions these points. Time will tell.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:49 pm to Mike Linebacker
You should stay away from persuasion and analysis
Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:42 pm to Mike Linebacker
1) It baffles me that anyone would take the opinion that LSU has proven to develop QBs.
2) LSU should worry first about winning games at LSU. The NFL is great, but people are buying tickets to watch kids win games in college. Ask Urban Meyer if he is worried that none of his QBs are/were NFL caliber.
3) Metts improvement SR year was a step up from his previous play, but I have to think a lot of people in this thread are really forgetting how many brain farts he had. Hell, he personally kept Ole Miss in the game that year. He often tried to force throws that were not there. Yes, he did improve, but I would say he went from average to good. Not great.
2) LSU should worry first about winning games at LSU. The NFL is great, but people are buying tickets to watch kids win games in college. Ask Urban Meyer if he is worried that none of his QBs are/were NFL caliber.
3) Metts improvement SR year was a step up from his previous play, but I have to think a lot of people in this thread are really forgetting how many brain farts he had. Hell, he personally kept Ole Miss in the game that year. He often tried to force throws that were not there. Yes, he did improve, but I would say he went from average to good. Not great.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:59 pm to lakelanier
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I am not trying to find fault with everything you have brought up, but I think you give little credibility to anybody who questions these points. Time will tell.
You're right. I give no credibility to posters who try to judge that trio on the basis of one year. And I have no reservations about that. Twice, however, is a pattern.
Time will tell.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:33 am to crookedicat
Wow?!?!?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:17 am to tduecen
How about the offensive line improved a lot.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:39 am to crookedicat
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save Mett who well, was developed as much as he was going to be when he got here.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:05 am to Football_Freak
You should stay away from reading comprehension. This is on the recruiting board due to the Patterson analysis and is a comparison of LSU and Ole Miss. It's a rebuke to those who say they can't blame Patterson for the decision since LSU "can't develop QBs". The point is that the same can be said for Ole Miss, even more so.
I will say this on the broader question. I do credit Cameron with turning Mett from an average college QB with great potential into a very good college qb thus giving him a shot in the NFL. Mett credits Cameron too. I was disappointed with the lack of development at the position in 2014, but I have more patience than most fans and will wait to see what Cameron can do with these guys with another year.
I will say this on the broader question. I do credit Cameron with turning Mett from an average college QB with great potential into a very good college qb thus giving him a shot in the NFL. Mett credits Cameron too. I was disappointed with the lack of development at the position in 2014, but I have more patience than most fans and will wait to see what Cameron can do with these guys with another year.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:02 am to Mike Linebacker
The QBs recruited by Les Miles developed at LSU.
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