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re: UK set to be first country to allow creation of babies from 3 people
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:41 pm to TJRibMe
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:41 pm to TJRibMe
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The problem is that it devalues any life. Once the genie is out of the bottle, genetic modification leads to selective physical or biological traits. A designer society would be a scary place, especially for those lacking in the newly desired and engineered traits.
This. Children become just like a commodity that you design and order. Sure, handling genetic disorders would be good, but not to the point of changing your child's hair color, height, etc. to your liking.
When everyone is perfect...no one is!
Then again, you'd probably have those who refuse to design their children, thus creating a lower "imperfect" class à la Gattica. Basically, the whole movie shows why this is a bad idea.
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:43 pm to SwaggerCopter
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All evil starts with good intentions.
What a dumb quote
ETA:
Did you mean "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"?
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:45 pm to Jet12
I'm ok with this if they can prevent hereditary diseases from being passed down.
That would be really scary to be a parent and know you could curse your kids with something terrible like Parkinsons, ALs, etc.
I agree going outside of that purpose would be not a good idea.
That would be really scary to be a parent and know you could curse your kids with something terrible like Parkinsons, ALs, etc.
I agree going outside of that purpose would be not a good idea.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:52 pm to TheCaterpillar
People do evil things because they see good things in them. Evil is just a distortion of good.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:27 pm to SwaggerCopter
Disease could be eradicated. I think if people were honest, they would admit that their opposition to this is pretty much just religious.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:31 pm to Hester Carries
exactly. Its only unethical if you believe in the big floating man in the sky
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:41 pm to Slingin Pickle
First of all, with the number of brilliant philosophers and scientists who have believed in God, the possibility of an existence of a god is not something that you can just dismiss as a silly idea of the ignorant.
Second of all, natural law applies with or without the belief of God. There are ways the world works. Going against those ways can have consequences we can't foresee, both scientifically and societal.
Second of all, natural law applies with or without the belief of God. There are ways the world works. Going against those ways can have consequences we can't foresee, both scientifically and societal.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 2:57 pm to SwaggerCopter
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First of all, with the number of brilliant philosophers and scientists who have believed in God, the possibility of an existence of a god is not something that you can just dismiss as a silly idea of the ignorant.
This is an argument from authority. Thats a fallacy. Its also VERY selective. If you want to argue for the existence of God im all for it. But dont reference guys that lived 100s of years ago and or the 5% of scientist who currently live and believe as some sort of positive for that belief.
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There are ways the world works. Going against those ways can have consequences we can't foresee, both scientifically and societal.
As a part of nature, anything we as humans produce is natural. The concept that we can produce "unnatural" things is dumb. You also use the term consequences as if its a negative word. Uh, yeah...it wont have ZERO effect on things. The consequences might be positive.
At the end of the day, people are afraid of "playing God" because they think someone already holds that position, and will get angry. This is why belief is not something you can just say "to each his own" with. It holds back progress (whether good or bad).
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:06 pm to Hester Carries
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This is an argument from authority. Thats a fallacy. Its also VERY selective. If you want to argue for the existence of God im all for it. But dont reference guys that lived 100s of years ago and or the 5% of scientist who currently live and believe as some sort of positive for that belief.
I won't argue on a message board because it's too hard to have a solid discussion without getting derailed, but the philosophy of Thomas Aquinas and others still holds today. Scientists like to act like they have proven that God doesn't exist. But it simply isn't the case.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:06 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Scientists like to act like they have proven that God doesn't exist.
No one says that. Because its impossible to prove a negative.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:09 pm to BottomlandBrew
"Designer babies" = evolution
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:10 pm to Hester Carries
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At the end of the day, people are afraid of "playing God" because they think someone already holds that position, and will get angry. This is why belief is not something you can just say "to each his own" with. It holds back progress (whether good or bad).
I absolutely agree. We have way too many people out there who don't understand this. There is a higher power, or there isn't. The problem is that atheists view believers as the kids in the corner believing in fairy tales. In reality, belief in God has real ramifications that atheists need to realize believers believe in.
Somehow, society believes that we have grown up and no longer believe in God. But in reality, the arguments are all still there. It is very difficult to prove right or wrong. We are like two dimensional objects arguing about the third dimension.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:11 pm to Fat and Happy
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Designing a person will not end well.
Why wouldn't it?
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:11 pm to Hester Carries
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No one says that. Because its impossible to prove a negative.
Look at Hawking and Dawkins. They "act" as if it is obvious that God doesn't exist. But neither of them have any sort of logical proof. In fact, there are left unable to explain all kinds of things.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:15 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Look at Hawking and Dawkins. They "act" as if there is no scientific evidence to support the existence of God because there isn't.
Fify
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:15 pm to SwaggerCopter
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In reality, belief in God has real ramifications that atheists need to realize believers believe in.
This is an interesting sentence. Yes there are real ramifications. Those are the things that exist in this world (i.e. political opinions and decisions and wars and charity and such). These arent ramifications you "believe".
Believed ramifications are hell and damnation and heaven. And you cant just call that a real ramification that athiests must accept as a reason for actions on earth.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:16 pm to SwaggerCopter
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But neither of them have any sort of logical proof.
Because. You. Cant. Prove. A. Negative. Assertion.
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In fact, there are left unable to explain all kinds of things.
Uh..so?
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:18 pm to Hester Carries
I'm just saying that I think many atheists believe freedom of religion means you can let the believers continue to play fairy tale. But in reality, people who believe have moral principles they must abide by. God is truth. God is reality.
I believe that many leaders in this country believe that religion is a nuisance that people are letting affect their lives.
I believe that many leaders in this country believe that religion is a nuisance that people are letting affect their lives.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:23 pm to Hester Carries
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Because. You. Cant. Prove. A. Negative. Assertion.
Agreed. But can I get a better explanation of how all of this stuff came to be? If God didn't create it, it all just came from nothing. Believing in a creator who is beyond this universe at least attempts to explain it. It suggests that only in this universe do things need a beginning and an end.
This guy is somewhat monotone, but he lays out a lot of things that I have been given no better explanation for. This is not his original material, but he outlines lots of things well.
LINK
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