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re: The QB position and Brandon Harris
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:28 am to boxcar willie
Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:28 am to boxcar willie
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quote:Ours is complex
Good lord, now we've moved on to the excuse that our O is hard to learn.
Most college offenses aren't complex. NCAA rules limit practice time and coaches know that they can't install NFL-type offenses with all the wrinkles. Most of these kids don't have the ability to play in the NFL, so coaches water down the offenses to keep them generally understandable.
If anyone watching our O this year thinks it was overly complex, they're just delusional and looking for more excuses for our horrid QB play.
Now, I'll acknowledge that the O Cam WANTS to run may be complex, but the stuff we saw this year wasn't complex at all. Anybody arguing otherwise is just searching really hard for another excuse.
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 9:41 am to atltiger6487
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NCAA rules limit practice time and coaches know that they can't install NFL-type offenses with all the wrinkles. Most of these kids don't have the ability to play in the NFL, so coaches water down the offenses to keep them generally understandable.
Hasn't it been pretty well acknowledged that a big reason for our offense this year was because Cam didn't do precisely this?
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:34 am to atltiger6487
quote:Jeez. The "excuse" is a perfect storm of inexperienced players in skill positions, crippling the passing game. Harris is physically more gifted than Jennings, but was lost in the playbook; that much we all pretty much accept.
Now, I'll acknowledge that the O Cam WANTS to run may be complex, but the stuff we saw this year wasn't complex at all. Anybody arguing otherwise is just searching really hard for another excuse.
Keep in mind the WRs didn't help the situation. Dural was the only guy with ANY experience, and he was coming off a 7 catch season. Note- the ONLY guy. There were no juniors or seniors at all, no experienced backups who could help out with knowledge in the huddle, if not as a primary target. Diarse, a redshirt freshman, was literally the 2nd most experienced WR we had.
It takes time to transition to new players; look at the Saints. Cooks was their 1st rd pick, but you still saw Brees throwing more to an aging Colston or an injured Graham early on, while Cooks was learning what to do. Had there been all new players with no vets, it would have been a mess.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:21 pm to atltiger6487
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Most college offenses aren't complex. NCAA rules limit practice time and coaches know that they can't install NFL-type offenses with all the wrinkles. Most of these kids don't have the ability to play in the NFL, so coaches water down the offenses to keep them generally understandable.
Mett ran an NFL level offense in 2013. One of the biggest selling points the scouts had on Landry and Beckham were how high of a level their route running was because of that system. Ej Manual also said that Fisher's scheme was more complex than the Buffalo Bills.
Of course the offense was dumbed down this year. Non of the kids could run the 2013 offense. Why don't you guys get that it is complex? Have you seen Dural's route running, or lack there is? We don't run many routes or higher level ones this year and the playbook was very limited because of it.
But I'm done telling you guys about this.
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