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Did NFL Cop Feel of Colts' Balls, Too?

Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:49 am
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11100 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:49 am
Did the sample set include game balls used by the Colts? If not, it would be hard to rule out these variables:

1. Usual/Unusual deflation caused by common weather/atmoshphereic conditions.

2. Improper initial application and verification of inflation standard by NFL Officials prior to the game - up to and including whether NFL Officials' equipment was properly calibrated.

3. Finally, were further causality factors, such as usage patterns taken into account? For example, NE used it's game-approved footballs far more than did the Colts: greater time of possession = more scores/handling/spikes, etc.

1-2 lbs psi: Is it 1 or is it 2 and how big are the differences between 1 and 1 lbs psi when it comes to application, really? Any definitive study on that? In other words, maybe it's quite normal for a well used NFL game ball to lose a pound during such use and conditions.

Again, has any controlled comparison been made with the Colts' game balls?

This story is horse shite to me until provided real answers to the questions above. Beyond that, it's sore-loser speculative hype.



Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27351 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:50 am to
Yes. /thread.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:52 am to
The colts ball were fondeled
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16605 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:54 am to
It wasn't even that cold at kickoff, definitely not cold enough to account for a 16% decrease in the pressure. The usage pattern argument is weak.

And if this wasn't legit there would be no damn way the NFL would be going through this right before the Super Bowl.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67142 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:59 am to
Why do keep starting threads about touching balls?
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:00 am to
Your team cheated. Again. Deal with it.
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
9541 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:30 am to
This is such a farce. One, an nfl official almost always have their hands on the balls at the beginning and end of every play. These guys handle balls all the time and at record levels on Monday night. Could they not tell the difference?

Two, an nfl rep should be checking these things throughout the games. They have their 53 man rosters of geezers on the sidelines pretending to be an integral part of the NFL group. Hang a pressure guage from their whistle and let them check during the endless tv timeouts.

Three, is the NFL too poor to supply their own balls? Granted, Roger doesn't have is own pair but this seems like the local gym supplying ten year old basketballs so members bring their own. NFL should supply them.

Again, the colts weren't winning period and Belichick runs his equipment room like a nascar pit crew. In it to win it.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 7:34 am
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11100 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:44 am to
OK all - I think I've stated my case pretty clearly.


It will be fun to see how the NFL twists its logic to settle this one while ESPN and the other media outlets work to get as much out of it as they can.

Yes, I'm a Pats fan and it's good to be a Pats fan.

In the meantime: peace out.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71703 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:53 am to
Yes, and it was more deflated than something that could be caused by weather.

25k fine, oh no, and let's move on from this trivial shite.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32607 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:25 am to
Haha they cheated just deal with it. Isnt like they haven't cheated before. .
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:35 am to
There has been tons of cold games where this was never a factor.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12316 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Did NFL Cop Feel of Colts' Balls, Too?

What a childish subject line. Such abject immaturity shouldn't be celebrated, condoned, or coddled. JMO, bro - try your best to assail.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:51 am to
quote:

1. Usual/Unusual deflation caused by common weather/atmoshphereic conditions.



We already know that this wasn't the reason for the 16% variation.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:58 am to
quote:

1-2 lbs psi: Is it 1 or is it 2 and how big are the differences between 1 and 1 lbs psi when it comes to application, really? Any definitive study on that? In other words, maybe it's quite normal for a well used NFL game ball to lose a pound during such use and conditions.


This is my question.

Further, did Brady or anyone ask that the balls be deflated?

Aaron Rogers is on record as saying he prefers a ball that has a little more air.

I'd like to feel what a football feels like normally and then with 1-2 lbs. taken out.

At 6'2", my hand is pretty much exactly 10". I can get a good grip on a college or high school ball. A new/slick NFL ball tests my limits. I would imagine that 1-2 lbs. might make a big difference to me. But, maybe not so much for a 6'5" Tom Brady who probably has a 10.5-11" hand size. But, then again, with the weather conditions the way they were in Foxboro, you never know.
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