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re: New Orleans Pelicans Issues Go Beyond Monty Williams

Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:07 pm to
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I guess MM can try to argue this as low IQ, but this just sounds like shitty coaching to me.


MM has become a coach sympathizer since he became a HS coach a few years ago. I guess he realized the players don't always do what you tell them to do. I'm sure players are hard to deal with, but that's the coach's job, and when you see these things repeatedly happen you either need a new system or new players, or possibly both.

The year we had CP3 and Mike Malone, the defense was top 10. We haven't sniffed the top 10 since and the last 2 years have been bottom 5 even though he finally got the defensive center he's been wanting this year.

But like I said, we've talked the Monty issue to death on this board and we're all pretty much in agreement. The more interesting question is do we need to move 2 of Gordon/Ryno/Tyreke/Asik, or can this roster work with an MLE level addition and the right coach?

I'm on the fence on all 4 of those guys, but I have to think a better coach and starting the season with the current roster changes things dramatically and we'd be right in the middle of the playoff pack. Is there a coach that can break Tyreke of his bad habits? Can we find a coach that can do a better job of hiding the deficiencies of Ryno and Asik while allowing their above average strengths to shine? The question on Gordon isn't so much coaching as it is health. I think you probably get the most value out of Gordon by trading him at the deadline next year. And because you're stuck with Gordon I think you don't blow things up this offseason. I do wonder if it'd be better to go after Koufos than resign Asik, but outside of that I think hiring the right GM/Coach is the most important decision to make.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:35 pm to
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Can we find a coach that can do a better job of hiding the deficiencies of Ryno and Asik while allowing their above average strengths to shine?


Yes. Anderson played on top 10 defenses in Orlando. Asik played on a top 10 offense in Houston and anchored a league average defense with far worse defensive talent on hand than in NO. That's at least 2 coaches, one of whom is not highly regarded.

I don't find MM convincing here. Who was talking about the high IQ of many of the guys on the Hawks before Bud got there and installed his system last year? How is Korver's role fundamentally different from Anderson's? Or Teague from Evans? Carroll, Sefalosha, Scott, Antic, Schroeder are all fairly one dimensional; the difference there is those guys have been given a context that is lacking in NO.

Bud ran the same stuff last year with his MASH unit and they were awesome to watch even though they lost often. I've never gotten the sense Monty has installed much of system or philosophy in 5 years. That is a problem, regardless of talent on hand. Even the Sixers have an ethos; something they're building to.
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