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re: Clearing up a couple of things on Steele

Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:06 am to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:06 am to
Demoted? Lets see.

2008 Alabama Salaries: Offensive line coach Joe Pendry ($350,000), defensive head coach Steele ($350,000), defensive coordinator Smart ($275,000), running backs coach Burton Burns ($220,000), outside linebackers coach Lance Thompson ($210,000), defensive line coach Bo Davis ($190,000), and receivers coach Curt Cignetti ($170,000).

https://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022608aaa.html

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Saban also announced Tuesday that Steele was promoted to associate head coach/head defensive coach and Smart was promoted to defensive coordinator. Alabama ranked 27th nationally last season in scoring defense (22.0 ppg) and 31st nationally in total defense (345.5 ypg). Three members of the Crimson Tide defense earned first team All-SEC honors (Wallace Gilberry, Rashad Johnson and Simeon Castille) while two other defenders were named to the All-SEC Freshmen team (Rolando McClain and Kareem Jackson).

“Kevin’s an outstanding coach and an outstanding recruiter,” said Saban. “He has become a right hand man for me. He’s certainly a guy who would make a fantastic head coach. Of all the assistant coaches I’ve had, Kevin’s as fine as any of them. “Kirby had the opportunity to go someplace else as a defensive coordinator,” said Saban. “We felt it was imperative and very important to keep these two guys together. They had worked very well together in the past. They worked very well last year in helping our defense improve as the year went on. I’m very happy and pleased to have both of those guys on the staff. They both make a strong contribution, they both have tremendous leadership qualities, and they are both very, very good recruiters.”


So again, he was not demoted. If anything, Smart was only promoted to keep him from leaving.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37535 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:11 am to
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Steele was promoted to associate head coach/head defensive coach and Smart was promoted to defensive coordinator.
Such a good DC he got Kirby Smart promoted to DC then left a year later to leave his promotion to be DC at Clemson.

Trees.

Forest.

Sorry you can't see it bro. I feel bad for you.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 12:12 am
Posted by Tigersnca
Member since Jan 2015
8 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:14 am to
Anybody whom has any experience in life and workplace knows that being PC and not burning bridges is the route you have to take. It doesn't matter the money he was making, they saw they made a mistake but didnt want to implode the program so the repurposed him and let him go the following year... That's the professional way to handle it. Legally you are not even allowed to badmouth an employee because it hinders their ability to find another job...

He's obviously got skills as a recruiter and that is why he has the slightest of interest.

I think everybody could read through the lines that Steele really cant hack it and Bama only kept him around in meaningless roles for his help in recruiting. This is a complete swing and miss for LSU
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37535 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:16 am to
Hmmmm, promotion to Defensive Head Coach!!! and Associate Head Coach!!! Yay me! Who needs to be DC?!?

Oh me, I guess, because I left those positions to be DC at Clemson.

Let's weigh these... I was DC, but got "promoted" to other positions the next year. Then the following year I chose to not honor those "promotions" and become DC somewhere else. Maybe they weren't really "promotions".



Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1053 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:07 am to
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Mickey GoldmillClearing up a couple of things on SteeleDemoted? Lets see. 2008 Alabama Salaries: Offensive line coach Joe Pendry ($350,000), defensive head coach Steele ($350,000), defensive coordinator Smart ($275,000), running backs coach Burton Burns ($220,000), outside linebackers coach Lance Thompson ($210,000), defensive line coach Bo Davis ($190,000), and receivers coach Curt Cignetti ($170,000). LINK quote:Saban also announced Tuesday that Steele was promoted to associate head coach/head defensive coach and Smart was promoted to defensive coordinator. Alabama ranked 27th nationally last season in scoring defense (22.0 ppg) and 31st nationally in total defense (345.5 ypg). Three members of the Crimson Tide defense earned first team All-SEC honors (Wallace Gilberry, Rashad Johnson and Simeon Castille) while two other defenders were named to the All-SEC Freshmen team (Rolando McClain and Kareem Jackson). “Kevin’s an outstanding coach and an outstanding recruiter,” said Saban. “He has become a right hand man for me. He’s certainly a guy who would make a fantastic head coach. Of all the assistant coaches I’ve had, Kevin’s as fine as any of them. “Kirby had the opportunity to go someplace else as a defensive coordinator,” said Saban. “We felt it was imperative and very important to keep these two guys together. They had worked very well together in the past. They worked very well last year in helping our defense improve as the year went on. I’m very happy and pleased to have both of those guys on the staff. They both make a strong contribution, they both have tremendous leadership qualities, and they are both very, very good recruiters.” So again, he was not demoted. If anything, Smart was only promoted to keep him from leaving.


Saban made a sales pitch : LSU bought it hook line and sinker
Posted by lsusteltz16
LaGrange, Ga
Member since Nov 2007
876 posts
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:52 am to
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So again, he was not demoted. If anything, Smart was only promoted to keep him from leaving.


You don't understand how to read between the lines and you don't understand politics, do you? I would love to work with someone like you in the business world. I could spin something so negative for you and make you think I was doing you a favor.


You don't go from DC to special asst or whatever fricking fancy title he got without it being a demotion. Giving up playcalling of the Defense is a demotion no matter how you slice it. It just means Saban thought higher of Smart as a defensive mind than Steele but didn't want to lose a recruiter.

If it's a promotion or lateral move for Steele, why did he bolt the first chance he got to be a DC again?
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