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re: The NFL domestic abuse commercial have got to stop
Posted on 1/11/15 at 1:51 pm to TotesMcGotes
Posted on 1/11/15 at 1:51 pm to TotesMcGotes
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the NFL's pr problem is
imaginary
Posted on 1/11/15 at 1:52 pm to TN Bhoy
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And these commercials exist because of Goodell and Rice, not the media.
goodeell overreacted to the ray rice situation due to the media trying to create a story out of what was then a non-event
Posted on 1/11/15 at 1:54 pm to TN Bhoy
Goodell had to do this because of the way the media reacted about it.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 1:56 pm to ButchItUp
What exactly did the "media" do other than release the video?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 1:59 pm to Melvin
created the narrative that the NFL didn't do enough, supports DV, is anti-women, etc
the media took imagined lib-prog talking points and ran with it to create a story. the new cycle ran its course and the story is essentially dead but the NFL is left trying to pick up the pieces due to some imagined PR issue
the media took imagined lib-prog talking points and ran with it to create a story. the new cycle ran its course and the story is essentially dead but the NFL is left trying to pick up the pieces due to some imagined PR issue
Posted on 1/11/15 at 1:59 pm to ButchItUp
Mariska Hargitay is to blame...I still love her though!
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:00 pm to ButchItUp
So that 15-40 seconds bothers you that much?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Do you have any links supporting all this narrative creating? And because some people believe he didn't do enough that makes it an "imagined PR issue"?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:12 pm to Melvin
You need links for that? Just how deep in the sand is your head buried?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:16 pm to LNCHBOX
So you can't. I guess you guys are the ones creating a narrative.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:18 pm to Melvin
Give me a link to the media not driving the narrative. What a stupid criteria for an argument.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:21 pm to LNCHBOX
How can I link something that doesn't exist? Y'all are claiming that this created narrative exists so I'm asking for a link or some examples. How is that stupid?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:22 pm to LNCHBOX
those commercials are have no substance its just to make it seem like Goodell and the NFL care about domestic abuse but what they really care about is not losing money in the form of endorsements, viewership, etc
what a better way to bring attention to domestic abuse then to spend money on a commercial and pay actors to overact by crying and not talking about it? they try to appeal to the viewers emotion but most people see behind the fake facade and see how un-genuine these commercials are
what a better way to bring attention to domestic abuse then to spend money on a commercial and pay actors to overact by crying and not talking about it? they try to appeal to the viewers emotion but most people see behind the fake facade and see how un-genuine these commercials are
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:23 pm to Melvin
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Do you have any links supporting all this narrative creating?
ESPN-Women
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And make no mistake, the NFL has a problem on its hands.
Huffpo
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Professional Sports and Domestic Violence: Celebrity Favoritism or Weak Domestic Violence Laws?
NYT
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The report was released four months after TMZ, a celebrity gossip website, published the video, which set off a ferocious backlash against the N.F.L. for its handling of domestic violence cases and prompted calls for Mr. Goodell’s resignation.
and then they try to expand it to fit the narrative, by including greg hardy (who was already being prosecuted well before rice) and adrian peterson (who was not accused of domestic violence)
you can google for feminist or non-mainstream lib-prog opinion sites for hundreds of other stories, op-eds, and blog posts
the problem? the data shows the NFL players are much LESS likely to commit DV
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As you would expect from a much more affluent group (e.g. the poverty rate among NFL players is zero), NFL players have much lower arrest rates than average — basically across the board:
538 leans left, which leads to this AMAZING comment
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Although this is still lower than the national average, it’s extremely high relative to expectations.
actually, it's extremely low based on expectations, because the narrative was how violent the NFL was
and while the article tries to show how the rates are high compared to the rich (which is laughable for a number of reasons), it ignores how the rates compare to similar race/age groups, especially if you looked at their poverty levels pre-NFL. i GUARANTEE you that the NFL has one of the lowest rates of DV for any industry/group primarily consisting of young black males from poor backgrounds
Slate shows the seeds being laid, along with the lib-prog hatred of stats/science if it doesn't agree with the narrative
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No, Seriously, the NFL Really Does Have a Domestic Violence Problem
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Does the NFL have a domestic violence problem? Perhaps not, if you strictly interpret that question to mean, Can you prove conclusively that the rate of domestic violence charges against NFL players exceed the national average?
IGNORE DATA, CREATE NARRATIVE
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But that’s an excessively narrow interpretation. The NFL does have a problem in the inconsistency with which it treats offenders and minimizes their alleged crimes. NFL executives and coaches talk tough on domestic violence but don’t really follow through.
Also when the narrative is attacked, you get greatness like this article about domestic violence in women's soccer
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The Washington Post’s Cindy Boren asks why “no one is talking about” Solo’s domestic violence case. Congratulations -- we are now, and the level of the conversation is incredibly myopic. Boren suggests that perhaps the silence represents a cultural avoidance of the idea that “domestic violence isn’t simply an issue of men against women.” Well, the perpetrators of domestic violence are overwhelmingly male, the victims are overwhelmingly female, and the violence that occurs between intimate partners represents a far more insidious form of abuse than that of a woman fighting with her extended family.
spin spin spin, comrade
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:24 pm to Melvin
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So you can't.
i could link hundreds if i wanted to. i gave you a few from major publications. the burden is on you, now
i'm not going to invest my resources in producing proof of reality
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
A PR problem, whether real or perceived, truthful or created, is still a PR problem. Go ask the NFL brass back in September/October if it was imaginary.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:34 pm to TotesMcGotes
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A PR problem, whether real or perceived, truthful or created, is still a PR problem
the media created this "problem" and it died a new cycle or 2 later. the ratings do not indicate any sort of PR problem
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Go ask the NFL brass back in September/October if it was imaginary.
just because the media pushed a lib-prog narrative not based in reality doesn't show anything other than their own bias and lack of credibility
the NFL is doing nothing more than perpetuate this false reality by continuing to produce/disseminate these commercials
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
Weren't they losing endorsements?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 2:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
im convinced that you're going through all of this effort so you can say "lib-prog" over and over again.
The NFL has chosen this route because this is a PR problem. If it weren't they wouldn't feel the need to draw any extra attention to their problem, whether actual or manufactured.
The NFL has chosen this route because this is a PR problem. If it weren't they wouldn't feel the need to draw any extra attention to their problem, whether actual or manufactured.
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