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re: How did we lose 3 games in 2001 with a team loaded with nfl players?
Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:27 pm to JaxTiger10
Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:27 pm to JaxTiger10
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didnt. Les Miles is the 3rd fastest to 100 wins IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE SEC. .
The revisionist history is strong with these people.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:27 pm to JaxTiger10
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Nick Saban did make the administration put more money into facilities and recruiting but his ON THE FIELD stats arent great.
He won two SEC titles and a NC by his 4th season. Those aren't on the field stats? Or that isn't impressive?
Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:28 pm to nm1230
Saban was also nailed by Dinardos failure to recruit qbs.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:38 pm to prplhze2000
Miles was nailed by Sabans failure to recruit OL
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:03 pm to prplhze2000
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Saban lost one reg season game in 03 and two in 04. Everyone knows we were robbed at Auburn.
Like Miles was robbed in 2006 at auburn? Miles has another sec west title and imo we wax Florida of we play them again. 2006 Florida frustrated me sooooo much. Ints off of our wrs helmets. Our dbs go up for an int and end up tipping it to a UF wr who takes it to the house . painful to watch.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:08 pm to prplhze2000
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Saban was also nailed by Dinardos failure to recruit qbs.
Saban fricked lsu on his last recruiting class. Saban had given up on recruiting so much so that he wasnt recruiting the instate, #1 overall recruit. He frickes8d lsu so bad Miles couldn't even fill the class.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:10 pm to JaxTiger10
Simple question. Which group would you take if you were a coach or GM? A or B?
Group A:
Qb -Rohan
Oline- Ben Wilkerson, Stephen peterman
Rb-. Labrandon toefield
Wr- josh reed , Michael Clayton, devery Henderson
Dline-marcus spears, chad lavalais, marquise hill(rip), kendrick allen, jarvis green
Lb- trev faulk, bradie james
Dbs-corey webster, ryan Clark
Group B:
qb - mett
rb - hill, blue, copeland, magee, hilliard,
wr - obj, landry, wright, boone, dural
ol - Turner, la'el, vadal
dl - Ego, freak, rasco, hunter
lb - Barrow, kwon, beckwith,
db - Loston, thompson, collins, mills,
Likely Future NFLs
Group A:
Qb -Rohan
Oline- Ben Wilkerson, Stephen peterman
Rb-. Labrandon toefield
Wr- josh reed , Michael Clayton, devery Henderson
Dline-marcus spears, chad lavalais, marquise hill(rip), kendrick allen, jarvis green
Lb- trev faulk, bradie james
Dbs-corey webster, ryan Clark
Group B:
qb - mett
rb - hill, blue, copeland, magee, hilliard,
wr - obj, landry, wright, boone, dural
ol - Turner, la'el, vadal
dl - Ego, freak, rasco, hunter
lb - Barrow, kwon, beckwith,
db - Loston, thompson, collins, mills,
Likely Future NFLs
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:13 pm to nm1230
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He won two SEC titles and a NC by his 4th season. Those aren't on the field stats? Or that isn't impressive?
Again, Saban lpst 3 games im 2001 while his team was loaded with nfl talent. Miles doesnt have the luxury of coaching in a sec west where 3 losses wins you the west.
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Those aren't on the field stats? Or that isn't impressive?
So wait. Losing 4 games, then 3 games, then 5 games, then 1 game, then 3 games is IMPRESSIVE? And you bash Miles for 2012&2013? Wow
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:21 pm to JaxTiger10
Saban took over for a guy that lost and got run off. Had to build it.
Miles didn't have to build it. He had to maintain it.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Miles didn't have to build it. He had to maintain it.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:24 pm to nm1230
Saban took over for a guy who was two years removed from back-to-back 9-win seasons.
DiNardo lost because LSU didn't want to pay Reese. Not because the cupboard was bare.
DiNardo lost because LSU didn't want to pay Reese. Not because the cupboard was bare.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:25 pm to JYD
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Simple question. Which group would you take if you were a coach or GM? A or B?
Are we taking into account how shitty the sec was in 2001? Hell a 3 loss team won the west. I would definitely take 2001 defense.
dline- Jarvis Green, Marcus Spears, Kendrick Allen, Marquise Hill, and Chad Lavalais
lbs
- Bradie James, Trev Faulk
Secondary- Ryan Clark, Corey Webster, Jack Hunt,RandalL Gayn and Norman lejuene
All these defensice players from 2001 were studs and played in the nfl.
2001 defense is far superior, in talent, to 2013
Also the 2001 offensive personal is full of studs that went on to play in the nfl.
qb-rohan davey
rb-Labrandon toefield n Dominik Davis
wr- josh reed,devery Henderson, michael Clayton
te-robert royal
oline stephen Peterson, ben Wilkerson.
2001 had more overall talent that 2013.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:26 pm to chilge1
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Saban took over for a guy who was two years removed from back-to-back 9-win seasons.
Exactly. Lsu won 10 games in 96 and 9 games in 97.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:29 pm to nm1230
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Saban took over for a guy that lost and got run off. Had to build it.
He walked into a program stocked with nfl talent
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Miles didn't have to build it. He had to maintain it.
If you were knowledgeable about cfb, youd know its common knowledge that its harder to MAINTAIN a powerhouse program than it is to build one.
For example, which is harder to do? Having 3 elite recruiting classes OR have 10 good recruiting classes?
Which is harder to do? Win 12 games two years in a row OR win 10 games for a decade?
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:33 pm to TxTiger82
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He never played, though. That's a dumb perspective, in my opinion.
He was in the league for three or four years. An NFL coach decided he was good enough to back up his star QB, but that's not good enough to be considered an NFL QB to you? Sorry he didn't live up to your idea of success as a professional.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:33 pm to JaxTiger10
You know, after reading all this you have convinced me. Miles is a better coach than Saban. 2013>2001. Saban inherited a better program in 2000 than Miles did in 2004.
Consider me converted.
Consider me converted.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:36 pm to JaxTiger10
quote:So you don't think that Saban would have won just as many as Miles during Les's tenure at LSU? So you feel that LSU will always be 2nd rate to Alabama as a program? That is the message being sent by those that feel Miles is a better coach.
Not at lsu he didnt. Les Miles is the 3rd fastest to 100 wins IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE SEC. .
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:36 pm to nm1230
Oh yeah, and it's also more difficult to maintain a program than to build one.
I left that off the list. Anything else?
I left that off the list. Anything else?
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:38 pm to nm1230
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You know, after reading all this you have convinced me. Miles is a better coach than Saban. 2013>2001.
I'd argue they were basically the same during their tenures here.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:42 pm to DanglingFury
No- I think it's pretty clear to anyone knowledgable in football that Miles>Saban.
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