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Good teachers want to teach in good schools
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:22 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:22 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:23 am to Zach
It seems like lazy teachers would want to teach in good schools.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:27 am to FT
It depends on age. In elementary school teaching is harder work at bad schools due to behavior and language skills issues.
In elite High Schools teaching is more difficult if you're not highly qualified because there will be students in your class who know more about your subject than you do.
In elite High Schools teaching is more difficult if you're not highly qualified because there will be students in your class who know more about your subject than you do.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:30 am to Zach
quote:Like Darth in History class?
In elite High Schools teaching is more difficult if you're not highly qualified because there will be students in your class who know more about your subject than you do.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:33 am to FT
A good school wouldn't allow a teacher to be lazy.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:34 am to Mindenfan
Right. But that doesn't mean the lazy teachers wouldn't want to work there. Easier job and probably better pay.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:38 am to Zach
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In Pennsylvania, for instance, more than 20 percent of teachers are unlicensed in the schools with the largest concentration of minority students.
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Or consider Louisiana: Nearly 20 percent of classes in the most impoverished schools are taught by teachers who don’t meet the federal definition of “highly qualified” — which generally means they lack a bachelor’s degree, are unlicensed or don’t have a strong academic background in the subject they’re teaching.
This is insane.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:41 am to FT
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Like Darth in History class?
Not sure of the reference. I did not go to an elite HS but I was in GT classes. No student with an IQ lower than 120. We had a couple of teachers who knew less about the subject than we did. History and Sociology. A first year lady and a PE coach. We gave them a pretty hard time.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:42 am to Zach
quote:The first year person, meh. The other one isn't even a teacher.
We had a couple of teachers who knew less about the subject than we did. History and Sociology. A first year lady and a PE coach. We gave them a pretty hard time.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:44 am to Zach
The obvious solution is to bus kids from affluent areas to the poorer schools...
Sarcasm meter now off.
A qualified/good teacher can pick where they want to teach. The only way to improve this situation is to have a substantial pay difference in lower performing schools. And I don't mean 5 to 10% (or 4 to 5,000).
Sarcasm meter now off.
A qualified/good teacher can pick where they want to teach. The only way to improve this situation is to have a substantial pay difference in lower performing schools. And I don't mean 5 to 10% (or 4 to 5,000).
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:45 am to Zach
quote:I was in GT until junior year when they had to get rid of it because if funding issues.
Not sure of the reference. I did not go to an elite HS but I was in GT classes. No student with an IQ lower than 120. We had a couple of teachers who knew less about the subject than we did. History and Sociology. A first year lady and a PE coach. We gave them a pretty hard time.
The English teacher I had my senior year hated us because we were all smarter than she was. Plus we were kinda assholes, but that's to be expected.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:46 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:45 am to Scruffy
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Or consider Louisiana: Nearly 20 percent of classes in the most impoverished schools are taught by teachers who don’t meet the federal definition of “highly qualified” — which generally means they lack a bachelor’s degree, are unlicensed or don’t have a strong academic background in the subject they’re teaching. This is insane.
La. has two problems regarding unqualified teachers:
1. Hard to fill subjects... math, science, special ed. There just aren't enough warm bodies out there to fill the positions. Math and Science are a problem because you can make more money in the private sector. Special Ed is a problem due to burnout.
2. Rural schools. We think of impoverished schools as inner city. Not in La. We have rural schools with poor kids and they don't have enough numbers for teachers to stay within their specialty. IE, if Dry Prong HS has 100 kids and you're a history teacher you're not gonna have 5 classes of history to teach. So, they give you a class in math which you are totally unqualified to teach.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:46 am to FT
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The other one isn't even a teacher.
Hey, 15 years later he became the Principal.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:51 am to Zach
If you're going to be in a govt union shouldn't you just go where you're told and let the union decide where you would best be used. Seems like the state workers union way.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:03 am to Jagd Tiger
La. is a right to work state. The vast majority of teachers here are not members of the union.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:04 am to Zach
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In elite High Schools teaching is more difficult if you're not highly qualified because there will be students in your class who know more about your subject than you do.
The parents would be riding their arse as much as the students in the better schools.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 11:05 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:10 am to Zach
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Not sure of the reference. I did not go to an elite HS but I was in GT classes. No student with an IQ lower than 120. We had a couple of teachers who knew less about the subject than we did. History and Sociology. A first year lady and a PE coach. We gave them a pretty hard time.
What type of trash school did you go to or what type of trash family do you come from that allowed this to happen.
If you go to a good school and the school doesn't instill respect of its teachers or your parents didn't teach you to respect your teachers then you are a pretty clear example of what's wrong with education. It's not the teachers fault you are weak.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:18 am to mahdragonz
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What type of trash school did you go to or what type of trash family do you come from that allowed this to happen.
If you go to a good school and the school doesn't instill respect of its teachers or your parents didn't teach you to respect your teachers then you are a pretty clear example of what's wrong with education. It's not the teachers fault you are weak.
You're a bit naive. In those days, many teachers in Southern schools were unqualified to be in a classroom. It really went to shite when desegregation came about.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:29 am to mahdragonz
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What type of trash school did you go to or what type of trash family do you come from that allowed this to happen.
New Iberia Sr. High School.
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If you go to a good school and the school doesn't instill respect of its teachers or your parents didn't teach you to respect your teachers then you are a pretty clear example of what's wrong with education. It's not the teachers fault you are weak.
I'm sorry. But if you're stupid I'm gonna have some fun with you. A real example in my sociology class:
Coach: Turn your book to Chapter 11, Martial Relations.
I raise my hand.
Coach: Yes, Zach?
Me: Coach, does this involve husbands and wives going off to war?
Coach: What?
Me: The word 'martial'. It has to do with going to war. Are you sure you don't mean 'marital'?
Coach looks at word in his book again.
Coach: Zach, someday somebody is gonna beat your arse.
The class cracked up. Coach and I became good friends.
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