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re: Satanic Temple puts up display at Michigan Capital

Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:48 pm to
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An atheist bases things on facts. A Christian bases things on beliefs. Facts are verifiable. Beliefs are unverifiable.



Here is something else for you to ponder on porkchop. Some scientist of old lived their entire lives from cradle to grave not knowing anything about microscopic life. To them, it didn't exist and that was fact. But it turned out it wasn't fact.
Then there were scientist who lived their whole lives thinking that if a man was sick and you extracted enough blood out of his body, he would get well again. Of course, many died during bloodlettings. To this scientist, this was a fact, but it wasn't.
Then their were scientist that lived their entire lives from cradle to grave thinking the earth was flat. They never knew anything else, and to them, this was fact. But it wasn't fact.
Then there were those who lived their entire lives from cradle to grave thinking the Tasmanian Tiger was extinct. To them, this was fact. But when one was later discovered and filmed, this too became a non fact.
So to sit here and say that you have facts that God doesn't exist is very naive. You have no such facts and never will. But one day you will die also and you will get a chance to see if your facts are indeed factual.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:51 pm to
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So to sit here and say that you have facts that God doesn't exist is very naive. You have no such facts and never will.


You keep putting things like this, but I don't see anyone saying they can prove god doesn't exist. They are saying they don't have any facts to prove he exists.

And this argument would go back to the the dragon in the garage or teapot in space argument.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:03 pm to
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Then their were scientist that lived their entire lives from cradle to grave thinking the earth was flat. They never knew anything else, and to them, this was fact. But it wasn't fact.
There has never been a true scientist that ever believed this. The most ancient of civilizations knew that the earth was round.
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So to sit here and say that you have facts that God doesn't exist is very naive. You have no such facts and never will.
The difference is that God, by His very nature, is unprovable in any sort of scientific way. You're seeing it from the wrong end; it's not that he'll never be able to prove, scientifically, that God doesn't exist. It's that we'll never be able to prove scientifically that He does.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 3:06 pm
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