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re: Satanic Temple puts up display at Michigan Capital
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:58 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:58 am to FooManChoo
quote:No, that's only provisionally verifiable to the person who dies, if it's true. That's kind of a goofy way to define something as verifiable.
Religious faith is also verifiable. When you die, you'll either go to Heaven, Hell, some place in between, or no where (consciousness ceases and your dead body rots in the ground). The faith held in life will either be confirmed or invalidated in death.
If a proposition cannot be verified in a substantive way that can be shared with others, it's not verifiable. Otherwise, the crazy lady next door could "verify" that she's being abducted by aliens every night. If she can't provide substantive evidence of this belief to others, then it's not verifiable.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:43 pm to Hog on the Hill
quote:I'm understanding "verifiable" to mean that a particular truth claim (belief) is able to be confirmed or denied. If I, personally, am able to verify whether or not my belief is true when I die, I count that belief as verifiable.
No, that's only provisionally verifiable to the person who dies, if it's true. That's kind of a goofy way to define something as verifiable.
quote:Why is the sharing of the outcome necessary for a proposition to be verifiable? Let's use this as an example:
If a proposition cannot be verified in a substantive way that can be shared with others, it's not verifiable.
Proposition - I believe that when the body dies, the soul goes to either Heaven or Hell depending on what a person believes while alive.
Outcome - Upon death, my goes to Heaven.
Does the outcome verify my proposition (belief)? I would say it does in this example, regardless of whether or not it can be shared with other living persons.
quote:What you are asking for is a scientific measure that can objectively prove or disprove a belief. What if no scientific measure exists due to the limitations of science, itself? Does that mean a person cannot verify a belief through experience?
Otherwise, the crazy lady next door could "verify" that she's being abducted by aliens every night. If she can't provide substantive evidence of this belief to others, then it's not verifiable
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