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re: Good news for some. Pat Robertson says homosexuals will soon "die out"....

Posted on 12/19/14 at 10:36 am to
Posted by dawg2357
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 10:36 am to
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If you were taught the precepts of the Christian religion regarding the concept of being saved, burning in hellfire etc. at age 18 instead of being conditioned at birth you would see it for exactly what it is....bull shite.


I don't see the relevance of such a statement. How one comes to know an idea has nothing to do with whether or not the idea is true or not. It would be quite ludicrous for me to go up to someone and say the only reason you believe evolution is because you were born in 20th century America as opposed to 15th century Spain and then use that as some argument against the idea of evolution. Not to mention there are many that did not grow up in the Christian religion that came to it later in life rendering your seemingly absolute statement not only irrelevant but false.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:19 pm to
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Not to mention there are many that did not grow up in the Christian religion that came to it later in life rendering your seemingly absolute statement not only irrelevant but false.


You can say the same for any religion. Mormonism, Islam, Buddhism etc. That doesn't give any of them any more credence as the absolute word of god. There is a common spiritual underpinning to all religions. The religions themselves are manmade subjective interpretations of various unknown men over time. It is unfortunate that the vast majority of Christians do not even know the history of how their religion was formed. I was raised Southern Baptist and they never wanted to talk about that. Start objectively investigating the origins and evolution of the Christian religion and, with the information available today online, there is no way you cannot come away with serious questions about what you have been conditioned to believe by parents, society etc. It takes an open mind to look into it. You can't simply read authors and apologists who confirm your bias. Watch some Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and really listen to and read what they are saying.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:52 pm to
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How one comes to know an idea has nothing to do with whether or not the idea is true or not.


Of course not, but it has everything to do with how objectively one analyzes the idea in question.

The bottom line is that Christians (and all religious people who claim exclusivity) simply do not apply the same criteria to their faith as they do to others when deciding what is true and what isn't. This is largely due to the fact that religion is a central part of almost every society on earth and kids are taught from an early age that their faith is true. The young, developing mind is biologically programmed to favor ideas taught to them by those closest to them, because it is vital for survival. The child who doesnt listen to their mother about wandering off into the woods at night is less likely to mature and propogate their genes. For the same reasons, our minds develop believing in the ideas put into our heads as children and are empirically shown to be the toughest ideas to shale in adulthood.

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Not to mention there are many that did not grow up in the Christian religion that came to it later in life rendering your seemingly absolute statement not only irrelevant but false.


The numbers are HEAVILY skewed however. Even those who come to believe in Christianity later in life were statistically likely to have been raised in a Christian home or, at the very least, a society where Christianity dominated. It is no coincidence that adult onset conversions almost always involve the faith most familiar to the individual in question.

The number of Christian converts who were never exposed to Christianity as children in any significant form are a very, very small minority of believers.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 8:56 pm
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