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Since innocent men have been accused of rape and the facts later showed it wasn't rape, the term, "illegitimate rape" is used to refer to those examples where a man is accused of raping a woman but the facts prove he didn't rape her.

The fact that the word "rape" is used at all infers that rape occurred. The use of "illegitimate" is not only needlessly tedious, it's moronic. It's either rape or it's not. The end. Period. Adding such bizarre qualifiers does nothing but obfuscate.

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The term, "legitimate rape" refers to those examples where a man is accused of raping a woman and the facts prove he did rape her.

No, in the real world that's just called "rape". What you are advocating is like calling your car your "automobile car".

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Using the term, "illegitimate rape" is just another way of saying the woman wasn't raped.

No, it's a polite way of saying "she's a lying bitch" without having to offend said lying bitch.

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No one should get offended by the use of these two terms and everyone should understand why these two terms are now being used.

I am quite offended because your attempt at word play still clumsily ties "rape" to someone innocent of the crime and you expect people not to understand that.

So your desire for approval of "illegitimate rape" as a means of describing someone falsely accused is found to be... wait for it... illegitimate.

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Posted by DawgfaninCa

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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:33 pm to Bard

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The fact that the word "rape" is used at all infers that rape occurred.

No it doesn't.

The inclusion of the word, "illegitimate" directly in front of the word, "rape" means that in reality it wasn't a rape.

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No, in the real world that's just called "rape". What you are advocating is like calling your car your "automobile car".

This is no different from when the definition of the word, "marriage" was changed to include two people of the same sex and the new term, "same sex marriage" was created to describe a marriage composed of two people of the same sex.

The term, "legitimate rape" was created after the feminazis and their supporters changed the meaning of the word, "rape" to include some sexual acts which previously were not included in the old definition of the word, "rape".

If people would stop redefining the meaning of words like "rape" in order to include in the new definition those acts that were intended to be excluded from the old definition then there would be no need to create new terms like "illegitimate rape" and "legitimate rape".

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I am quite offended because your attempt at word play still clumsily ties "rape" to someone innocent of the crime and you expect people not to understand that.

If you are offended because you continue to think the use of the term "illegitimate rape" still clumsily ties "rape" to someone innocent of the crime then blame the feminazis and their supporters not me.

If they didn't change the definition of the word, "rape" to include some sexual acts which were not previously considered "rape" under the old definition of the word, "rape" then there would have been no need for these two new terms to have been created.

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So your desire for approval of "illegitimate rape" as a means of describing someone falsely accused is found to be... wait for it... illegitimate.

I'm not desiring approval of the two terms.

I'm only explaining why these two new terms came into existence and how they are now being used.

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Posted by olgoi khorkhoi

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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:42 pm to Bard

No one really says "illegitimate rape". You wouldn't need to. I can see where someone might say "a legitimate case of rape" when discussing whether abortions should be allowed after rape. There are a lot of false claims and would likely be even more if abortions were predicated on whether there was a rape.

Sure, it's a somewhat clumsy way to make a point, and not necessarily how I would word it.

The point is, we all speak english. We know what the words "legitimate" and "rape" mean, so it's not hard to figure out what someone means when they string those two words together. To feign confusion and offense is dishonest and douchey, but it makes for great political theater and wins points with dumb people that live off soundbites and can't be bothered to scratch the surface. Like the cop quotes above. "huh? I've never heard that ever! What does it mean?!" Give me a fricking break. Yeah, okay, guy. It's not a legal term. Touche. Now can you use your brain or context clues, or something?

If true, 41% is mind-blowing. If you want to be offended by something, be offended that there are that many crazy bitches out there ruining the lives of men and clouding the issue for the true victims.

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