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re: Who has the leverage?
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:10 pm to SL Tiger
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:10 pm to SL Tiger
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The wins started with Saban and the trend continued with Miles. Everything was in place for Miles when he got here. LSU had already become a national power during the Saban tenure. No fricking way that Miles takes the LSU job back in 2000 and does what Saban does.
So what you're suggesting is that since 2005 to present, everything Miles has done at LSU is just from luck? He just channeled Saban's mojo for the last 10 years and on that and that alone is how he's "kept the trend going?"
Tell me I misunderstood what you typed.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:13 pm to la_birdman
Bama made Saban. If not for the Bear and what he started, Bama wouldn't be shite under Saban. He just showed up in 2007, popped it in cruise control and here we are.
Right?
Right?
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:50 pm to la_birdman
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Tell me I misunderstood what you typed.
What you misunderstand is that history will one day prove that Coach Saban is among the greatest ever. He may finish as THE best ever. To underestimate the advantage that Les had by following Saban is either stupid or ignorant. I argue the opposite point only when talking to a fricking gump. I was at LSU from 85-90 when many of the best La athletes didn't even look at LSU. Saban changed that.
What would you say if Saban quit tomorrow but the next coach wins 10 games/yr behind him? Who built the Bama dynasty? The same guy that built this one. You forget to mention that Saban won the first NC...which I'd say was a much tougher task than the first.
Would Les have a NC if he started at LSU in 2000?
Would Saban have lost 21-0 to ANYONE with the talent that we had in 2011? If you give Les (alone) credit for all of those wins then you should put that loss squarely on Les. And it was a very important one. No coincidence who he lost to. We've gotten used to that.
Les wouldn't have coached at LSU for 10 years had he started from scratch. Les is successful mostly because he hires good coordinators and is a likable guy. That translates into coordinators that probably stick around longer. LSU also spends more on our assistants than any other school in the country.
Another fact is that we've put more players in the NFL than any other school. That tells me that Les has had an advantage in talent. Look at what our rookies are doing right now. Are you ignorant to the fact that they are basically calling Miles out by questioning why we lost that many games last year.
By all means, if you want to call Les a coaching genius, go right ahead. All the more reason that he should have the confidence to leave what he has at LSU to build a dynasty at Michigan. Your stupid if you think that Les will ever win another national title outside of LSU. My concern is that he may not have what it takes to win another one for LSU. He's too stubborn and his excuses are bullshite. How does Ohio St prepare 3 QB's but Les can't prepare ONE.
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