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re: Officer in Eric Garner case: I never used a choke hold
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:50 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:50 am to mmcgrath
quote:;sigh:
And yet above you stated "Neither cause would be lethal"
No mmcgrath, as i'm certain you understood before you posted, I said episodic straining or relatively brief jugular compression could produce petechiae, but neither would be a cause of death. Put another way the petechiae do not equate with any sort of lethal cerebral hemorrhage here. They do not equate to any sort of determinative evidence of an asphyxia producing choke hold, airway or vascular. The ME's findings relative to cardipulmonary collapse are bizarrely conflicted. What was publicized was a weird report.
My suspicion is this guy, like Luis Hernandez, had significant underlying medical issues --- OSA, Asthma, Coronary/Myocardial Disease --- and rapidly lost conscious in a restrained, chest-compressed, prone position. The cops did not recognize extremis. They continued actions after loss of consciousness and should be held liable in some way.
The ME claiming Garner was choked to death and crushed to death is not only unhelpful, it is such a ridiculous finding that it could have exonerated any of the cops on its own. No doubt, considering language associated with the ME's report, that was not the ME's intent.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:12 am to NC_Tigah
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The ME claiming Garner was choked to death and crushed to death is not only unhelpful, it is such a ridiculous finding that it could have exonerated any of the cops on its own. No doubt, considering language associated with the ME's report, that was not the ME's intent.
I think this is incorrect.
The interruption of the mechanical movement of the chest bellows is crushing to death?
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:15 am to NC_Tigah
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And yet above you stated "Neither cause would be lethal"
quote:Dude, I just produced a direct quote. My post was "You stated [insert direct quote from nc_tigah]". Yet you reply "No".
No mmcgrath, as i'm certain you understood before you posted,
I don't get you.
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