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re: Grand Jury Doesn't Indict Cops who kill man with down syndrome

Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:09 pm to
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I'm not understanding. Are you saying motorists are in greater danger than the cop making a traffic stop? Or that the stoping cop shouldn't take precautions to protect himself from motorists until they prove intent to harm him? Not trying to be argumentative. Just not understanding what you're getting at.


Cops want us to respect their often hyper-reactive responses based upon incidences that have a very small statistical chance of happening. Then, when the shoe is on the other foot and they've killed someone through negligence or carelessness or whatever you want to term their issue here, we're supposed to recognize that the incidents are really rare. They don't get it both ways.

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What laws should be ignored
Who said anything about laws being ignored? I don't need them to ignore laws. I need them to not kill fat people through chest and neck compression in non-violent confrontations. That's also the part of the judgment I want them to exercise. I do want them to utilize judgment on the job. I don't see a lot of that in these publicized incidences. And the rush to defend the indefensible keeps widening the chasm between civilians and LEOs.

Your last argument is just stupid. Fewer than 50 cops will be killed in the line of duty by violence this year. Based upon your argument, I think we can cross that off the list of things to worry about.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18753 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:14 pm to
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Your last argument is just stupid. Fewer than 50 cops will be killed in the line of duty by violence this year.



We are already past 50 this year. 108 is the total for 14 with 58 being by violence.


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This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 6:45 pm to
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Cops want us to respect their often hyper-reactive responses based upon incidences that have a very small statistical chance of happening. Then, when the shoe is on the other foot and they've killed someone through negligence or carelessness or whatever you want to term their issue here, we're supposed to recognize that the incidents are really rare. They don't get it both ways.
Ah ok. Gotcha. And I see your point mostly.

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Who said anything about laws being ignored?
sorry if I over-presumed. It seemed like you were suggesting the Downs guy should have not been arrested because he had DS.

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And the rush to defend the indefensible keeps widening the chasm between civilians and LEOs
not sure how the OP headline helps, either?

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Your last argument is just stupid.


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Fewer than 50 cops will be killed in the line of duty by violence this year. Based upon your argument, I think we can cross that off the list of things to worry about.
Myself... Not being a cop... Have no fear of being killed "on duty". It isn't something I worry about.

That said... I'm not suggesting we look the other way when cops do bad thing--AT ALL.

But the idea that this is common and a threat to most of us seems... overblown.

It seems like an attempt to incite emotion more than advise us of some serious threat to our life. That's a classic propaganda move. Feels like we're being worked up.
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