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re: What do some of you not understand about Brandon Harris??

Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:40 am to
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:40 am to
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Brandon Harris is a true freshman and needs time to learn the offense. AJ has problems as well but at least understands the playbook and how to get the team lined up.


So does he know half of it ? 40 plays ? 20 plays ? There is NO reason for him to not have seen the field since Auburn.
We run off tackle 60% of the time. Does he know 5 pass plays that can be run off play action.

You people blindly defending Miles are out of material. I like him (CLM), check my post history, but he's F'ing this QB thing up beyond short term repair.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:41 am to
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stick with the guy that gives us no chance to win?


Les is going to lean on the defense and special teams while hiding the QB running a training wheels offense
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:42 am to
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but he's F'ing this QB thing up beyond short term repair.


killing both QB's confidence IMO
watch the highlights of jennings in the second half of the wisconsin game. he's regressed badly.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5056 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:42 am to
The isn't ready argument does not wash at this time. How can Urban Meyer get a true freshman ready to take over when his starting QB was hurt? How are other schools able to get young QB's ready? Wasn't Hodson ready as a redshirt freshman? Something is lacking. If the young men have low football IQ's then mistakes are being made in recruiting.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
31152 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:43 am to
Do a study for what when Beckwith is walking proof
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55031 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:45 am to
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We people don't have any trouble understanding this is the way it is and always will be


Doesn't this thread completely and 100% contradict your statement?

Read what people are saying in this thread and on the board every day. Tons of people are still claiming Harris isn't "ready", when that isn't the case (hence this thread).

People are confused and still don't know....how is beyond me. But again, it takes players who are with him almost every day a while to figure it out so I should expect it from fans as well.

I'm done arguing with you about Beckwith. He played like crap and couldn't beat out Welter when he was given opportunities. He dedicated himself through his preparation and kept it close (it helps that Welter just isn't an SEC calibur LB). You want to criticize Miles and the staff for not inserting him soon enough and being clueless about when to do so when his play IMMEDIATELY improved after being inserted. Now, you're just trying to justify your constant hate for the coaching staff. All you're going to do is constantly look for something to fuel your agenda rather than crediting the coaching staff when they actually did something right.

Two young players (in this scenario) were inserted into the starting lineup this year over more experienced players and your desire to use the one that played (and is playing well) as an example of how the staff doesn't know when to make the switch is all the evidence you need to see your agenda.
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8945 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:46 am to
I don't think Harris should start against A&M. That said, he should definitely get meaningful snaps. Use Harris the way that we used Perriloux in 07'. Bring him in situationally. Specific packages just for him. If they don't trust him to pass then let him come in when they call a qb draw or read option. He's a way better athlete. Keeping his arse glued to the bench isn't doing anyone any favors.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20474 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:48 am to
It's a good thing that Anthony Jennings wasn't ready to lead the comeback against Arkansas and the Outback Bowl as a true freshman.

Oh wait...
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:49 am to
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LSU must really have a complicated system - freshman quarterbacks are starting all the time with other colleges. I look for Harris to transfer - Jennings will play until he finishes his senior year - so why should he stay to play only one year. He can go elsewhere and leave when he's a junior for the NFL.


I just think it's the system and the whole offensive philosophy in general.

Hannigriff was saying on the post game show that the LHSAA did a study and 90+% of HSs in the state of LA run a spread or a variation of the spread. We recruit guys like this to our "system"

Miles wants to run the ball and control the clock, maintain a efficient passing game, and win with great defense and STs. It is not your defense's job to score points for your offense. It should not be part of your expectations to score 14 points off of turnovers every game. Your offense should be aggressive and score as many points as possible.

Miles believes this to be the only way to skin a cat. He either needs to change his philosophy or recruit QBs that match his system. Gus Malzahn would not recruit Mett to run his system right now even as an NFL starter bc he doesn't fit his system.

It should not take a kid 3 years to learn your system enough to throw for 200 yards a game. Jennings strikes me a smart guy and so does Harris. You telling me they are dumber than someone like Masoli from Oregon who just took off in Chip Kelly's system?

Or Nick Narshall who can learn malzahn's offense in one season? No. The system is broken. Fix it
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10060 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:51 am to
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You sir are brilliant. For Harris to get on the field, he's gonna have to prove that he can play within the scheme of the offense


Which is depressing as hell.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10060 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:52 am to
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WildTchoupitoulas


Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:53 am to
system is fricked...

1 TD against bama
1 TD against ole miss
0 TD's against Arkansas
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10060 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:54 am to
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someone should do a study on whether playing time helps players improve


Just finished one on Kendall Beckwith. He improved with playing time!!!

Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9673 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:54 am to
i honestly think its so bad, that i really do believe he is thinking about transferring...Regardless of his tweet, i could care less what they say, everyone is a politician and says what they feel others want to hear.

In his mind if he thinks he cant win the starting job with Jennings playing so bad, knowing he is more talented...he may say screw it, ill head somewhere else...

And spare me the freshman crap. either you are a gamer or you're not...its just a fact of life, some people have it some don't...so all this practice bullshite is getting old...Apparently were recruiting practice all-stars...
Posted by monsterballads
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Member since Jun 2013
29526 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:57 am to
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either you are a gamer or you're not...its just a fact of life, some people have it some don't..


Posted by suga
Member since Nov 2014
9 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:00 am to
bottom line is harris should get some pt to allow him to develop. its not hard to design a scheme that already features our heavy run tendencies that can mix in easy 1-2 read throws within the 5-10 yard box. hell even let him throw the bubble screen or quick pop passes. just get him on the field in some capacity
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16335 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:01 am to
What do some of you not understand about Anthony Jennings? He's the worst QB in all of college football. Not like you can get any worst that that. Continuing to roll him out there is embarrassing for our team and Jennings. It's pathetic.

Oh and this is what Harris said a few weeks ago:
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On whether or not he knows the full offensive playbook: "I would think everything we have in or need to know, I know. Different concepts, different quarterbacks that may be different ways you run different offenses. "Different concepts fit different guys. I am fully understanding everything in the playbook since I've been here, that's been put in. That's how that thing rolls out. That's how we're rolling around here."


Sounds like he knows the playbook to me.

Oh and I love when people say " You saw what he did vs Auburn." Yes he struggled vs them. But Jennings has struggled in just about every game this year and is the worst QB in college football. Why does he get a pass for being bad all year long, but Harris gets reamed for 1 game which happened to be his 1st start on the road vs a really good Auburn team. On and we still scored a TD, which is more than Jennihgs did vs Arky. And Harris was benched vs Auburn, Jennings was benched vs New Mexico St. And vs SECW opponents, Jennings is scoring less than 6ppg. That's horrible.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 10:08 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:06 am to
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Regardless of his tweet, i could care less what they say, everyone is a politician and says what they feel others want to hear.

Yeah? Well, I couldn't care less how much less you could care.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10060 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:09 am to
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Read what people are saying in this thread and on the board every day. Tons of people are still claiming Harris isn't "ready", when that isn't the case (hence this thread)


Hold up now, OP is more of your people, not my people

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I'm done arguing with you about Beckwith. He played like crap and couldn't beat out Welter when he was given opportunities.


Then you are lying to yourself. Look at the tape and stats. Beckwith outperformed him in every opportunity he got. He also got better the week after he got more snaps in a game. Crazy talk I know...

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IMMEDIATELY improved after being inserted.


So it's your opinion that Welter played better than Beckwith in every game until one week in practice Beckwith outplayed him and only then did he become better on the field than Welter. Yikes. His play improved each week with more game experience. He played the entire second half against Auburn I believe and wouldn't you know he had more tackles than Welter was getting playing entire games. Then he got his first start at Florida and Welter finally was relocated to ST's only.

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All you're going to do is constantly look for something to fuel your agenda rather than crediting the coaching staff when they actually did something right.


No I'm going to look at stats and actual game footage. Beckwith not playing didn't cost us a game this year. It did cause our D to not reach it's potential until later in the season. It was obvious to anyone watching that Welter was completely incapable of playing MLB in the SEC. Beckwith outplayed him, even when making mistakes early, in every opportunity he was given. Coaches were wrong on this one, and no amount of justification from the pumpers can change this. Harris might suck it up again, nobody knows, but there is zero, I repeat ZERO reason to not kick the tires when the worst QB in college football is ahead of him.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10060 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:11 am to
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It's a good thing that Anthony Jennings wasn't ready to lead the comeback against Arkansas and the Outback Bowl as a true freshman.


Truth! Miles didn't go to Rivers, his most senior QB, he went to Jennings because his insane arse sees a good QB. He wants it to be AJ and he's not giving up no matter how bad he makes him look.
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