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re: Here's a nice "f*ck you" to the Climate Change apostles (caution: sciency shite)
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:15 pm to Iosh
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:15 pm to Iosh
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10. Science lesson 1: Small things can have large effects. Ozone, for instance, makes up an even smaller portion of the atmosphere. Science lesson 2: CO2 drives climate because it doesn't precipitate out when directly added and water vapor does.
Another point to this. I can't find the thread, but in a previous thread i debated with a few of the global warming fanatics about CO2 makeup.
While i agree that small things can impact the atmosphere, the raise in atmospheric CO2 is minute.
I posted about it in a previous thread, here is what i posted.
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America makes up 4% of the human population. Co2, makes up roughly .04% of the atmosphere. America's portion of that .04% is .016%. Now, it's estimated that 4% of that CO2 that is tallied comes from "man made" sources. So that would mean that man made CO2 makes up approximately .0064% of the Earth's atmosphere.
I repeat. America's CO2 output, which is the target here, makes up approximately .0064% of the world's atmosphere. And in your mind, that is why global climate change is happening?
6 one-thousandths of a percent...
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Biosphere emits 55.28% of CO2 in the atmosphere
Oceans emit 41.46% of the CO2 in the atmosphere
Burning of fossil fuels emit 3.27% of CO2 in the atmosphere.
ETA: I believe my earlier post may be incorrect. Let's examine
4% of the CO2 emitted is due to fossil fuels.
.004% of the atmosphere is CO2
so
.00016% of the atmosphere is related to Fossil fuels (someone check my math)
Of that America's is responsible for 15% of the world's CO2 emmissions.
So 15% of .0000016 = .000024% of Earth's CO2 is due to America's CO2 emmissions.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:28 pm to BugAC
quote:do you dispute that CFCs were damaging our atmosphere because such a small amount of them, by volume, were released? Because they were pretty awful and cutting them out has been a huge benefit.
I repeat. America's CO2 output, which is the target here, makes up approximately .0064% of the world's atmosphere. And in your mind, that is why global climate change is happening?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:38 pm to BugAC
quote:There are two false divisions here. The first is suddenly taking America individually. Nowhere have I implied that China or the rest of the world is populated by hippies and/or saints. The second is taking the CO2 "coming from man made sources," which as I just said, only considers the gross and not the net.
America makes up 4% of the human population. Co2, makes up roughly .04% of the atmosphere. America's portion of that .04% is .016%. Now, it's estimated that 4% of that CO2 that is tallied comes from "man made" sources. So that would mean that man made CO2 makes up approximately .0064% of the Earth's atmosphere.
Humans contribute 4% of the gross. But they contribute more than 100% of the net (more than 100% because the net from the ocean and non-human terrestrial cycles is negative).
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 12:41 pm
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