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re: Dennis Prager on why poverty does NOT cause crime
Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:15 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:15 pm to Big Scrub TX
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It speaks volumes that white people on this board can't simply admit that their white parents and grandparents had a big leg up on black folks of the same generation.
I'm not going to deny the obvious - there was institutional bias against blacks that persisted for a long time.
However, that does not change the fact that the recipe for getting out is laughably simple - stay in school, refrain from criminal conduct, don't have children out of wedlock and work at any sort of job. You don't have to have rich parents, an Ivy league eduction or white skin to do these things. Like the biblical promise of salvation, it is so simple that people refuse to believe it.
It would work for 98% of black kids - but that message isn't being pushed by their parents, peers, or daresay, even their educators. And it would work despite salvery through the mid-19th century, Jim Crow through the mid-20th century and residual effects of those persisting today.
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:19 pm to Ace Midnight
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there was institutional bias against blacks that persisted for a long time.
That is an incredibly glib/facile way of stating it, IMO. Let's call it what it actually was: state-sponsored terror against an entire group of citizens.
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However, that does not change the fact that the recipe for getting out is laughably simple - stay in school, refrain from criminal conduct, don't have children out of wedlock and work at any sort of job. You don't have to have rich parents, an Ivy league eduction or white skin to do these things. Like the biblical promise of salvation, it is so simple that people refuse to believe it.
Yes, but...the government and society so fully marginalized and ghettoized many blacks that it led to lingering, generational destructive effects. It's easy to list the things on your list...much harder to stick to if the government and other citizens were actively impeding you or outright stealing from you.
Even just in the late 80's, I'm sure you're aware of drug sentencing laws that were passed re crack which very clearly were done with the intent of incarcerating large numbers of blacks vs whites and their cocaine habits. All of that wasn't on accident. Nor was it based on reality. It was a coordinated effort.
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