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re: Will all those gun sales after Sandy Hook, crime rates should rise, right?

Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:55 am to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35511 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:55 am to
Gun homicides have been going down since the Brady Bill was passed. Go figure.

Guns aren't the primary issue. Keeping them in the hands of responsible gun owners' hands is.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 9:57 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:57 am to
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Guns aren't the primary issue. Keeping them in the hands of responsible gun owners' hands is.


do you think more gun restrictions is the answer?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425879 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:58 am to
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Gun homicides have been going down since the Brady Bill was passed. Go figure.

while teh timing may have a correlation, Congress commissioned a study that showed the brady bill had no effects

pretty much all crime started falling in the mid-90s, after a dramatic rise starting in the mid-80s (but it had been increasing since the 70s). there are multiple theories for this all (and the popular "abortion" theory has been pretty much debunked, SO DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT)
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Gun homicides have been going down since the Brady Bill was passed. Go figure.

Guns aren't the primary issue. Keeping them in the hands of responsible gun owners' hands is.

I can meet you in the middle on this. How do you propose doing it?
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8406 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:04 am to
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Keeping them in the hands of responsible gun owners' hands is
keeping drunks from behind steering wheels will save tens of thousands of lives....



ignition breathalyzers for everyone!
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5348 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:23 am to
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Gun homicides have been going down since the Brady Bill was passed. Go figure. 


Actually they went down before that but don't let reality get in the way of your facts. You might want to explain why all those supposed felons denied were practically never arrested for attempting to purchase a firearm.
Posted by M1911
Member since Sep 2012
63 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:58 pm to
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Gun homicides have been going down since the Brady Bill was passed. Go figure.



You do realize correlation does not equal causation, right?

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Context In February 1994, the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act established a nationwide requirement that licensed firearms dealers observe a waiting period and initiate a background check for handgun sales. The effects of this act have not been analyzed.

Objective To determine whether implementation of the Brady Act was associated with reductions in homicide and suicide rates.

...

Results Changes in rates of homicide and suicide for treatment and control states were not significantly different, except for firearm suicides among persons aged 55 years or older (-0.92 per 100,000; 95% confidence interval [CI], -1.43 to -0.42). This reduction in suicides for persons aged 55 years or older was much stronger in states that had instituted both waiting periods and background checks (-1.03 per 100,000; 95% CI, -1.58 to -0.47) than in states that only changed background check requirements (-0.17 per 100,000; 95% CI, -1.09 to 0.75).



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