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re: Russell Wilson isn't "Black Enough," Seahawks Players Allegedly Say
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:02 pm to DelU249
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:02 pm to DelU249
I'm that guy IRL. I'm black, but not "black". I know exactly what they are talking about.
This is a view point that my white friend would never understand. Because at the end of the day, I get all the shite that every other black guy gets from white people, I get the black jokes, I get the black stereotypes even though I don't live up to them, but unlike "black" black people I don't get the refuge of having a tribe that I belong to. I'm a black computer programmer that lives in the south. I'm about as popular as ebola lol.
Yeah, I'll get jobs, I own my own company, it does quite well. I get projects from clients, I get all the "opportunities" that anyone else is able to get. That's not the problem. You say you watch shite like Breaking bad or mad men or the west wing and you get looked at by black people as white. You like jazz instead of rap, even though jazz is really black lol, you get looked at as "white".
But at the same time, you still come to forums like this and have to take the brunt of all the black people stereotype jokes. All the black people are stupid / lazy / ignorant /whatever jokes, and you have to take that shite in stride. I got one white friend that I can call and have a beer with that's cool like that. Too white for black people, too black for white people basically. That's why any black man worth a shite ups and goes north or west if they can. I will be soon.
And don't' get me started on black women. Black girls assume because you don't "spit game" at them that you like white girls (which I do lol but still) or that you're gay. It's like if you don't' come into a room with a handgun and a do rag on you aren't black enough for them. Then they bitch about not being able to find a good man. frick em all.
Yeah I'm mad dammit.
This is a view point that my white friend would never understand. Because at the end of the day, I get all the shite that every other black guy gets from white people, I get the black jokes, I get the black stereotypes even though I don't live up to them, but unlike "black" black people I don't get the refuge of having a tribe that I belong to. I'm a black computer programmer that lives in the south. I'm about as popular as ebola lol.
Yeah, I'll get jobs, I own my own company, it does quite well. I get projects from clients, I get all the "opportunities" that anyone else is able to get. That's not the problem. You say you watch shite like Breaking bad or mad men or the west wing and you get looked at by black people as white. You like jazz instead of rap, even though jazz is really black lol, you get looked at as "white".
But at the same time, you still come to forums like this and have to take the brunt of all the black people stereotype jokes. All the black people are stupid / lazy / ignorant /whatever jokes, and you have to take that shite in stride. I got one white friend that I can call and have a beer with that's cool like that. Too white for black people, too black for white people basically. That's why any black man worth a shite ups and goes north or west if they can. I will be soon.
And don't' get me started on black women. Black girls assume because you don't "spit game" at them that you like white girls (which I do lol but still) or that you're gay. It's like if you don't' come into a room with a handgun and a do rag on you aren't black enough for them. Then they bitch about not being able to find a good man. frick em all.
Yeah I'm mad dammit.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:41 pm to vengeanceofrain
I worked with a guy once who told me he was an outcast in both the black community and the white community. I didn't really understand it at the time, especially since he wasn't particularly the "Carlton" type. I guess that's. What the poster above me is talking about.
I've said for years that, imo, black people seem to have much more pressure to conform to a certain m.o. than do white people. White people seem to have the "freedom" to be whatever they are, without having to fit a stereotype or rigid profile.
Just my opinion, but I actually think this has turned out to be a pretty good thread. I wish we could have more threads like this where people could just speak honestly, and have other posters do the same. I think we're all guilty of resorting to knee-jerk reactions at times, instead of just having an honest back and forth discussion.
EDIT - I temporarily forgot that this thread was on the MSB. Maybe that's why it has played out pretty well. On the PT, this thread may have ended up much differently
I've said for years that, imo, black people seem to have much more pressure to conform to a certain m.o. than do white people. White people seem to have the "freedom" to be whatever they are, without having to fit a stereotype or rigid profile.
Just my opinion, but I actually think this has turned out to be a pretty good thread. I wish we could have more threads like this where people could just speak honestly, and have other posters do the same. I think we're all guilty of resorting to knee-jerk reactions at times, instead of just having an honest back and forth discussion.
EDIT - I temporarily forgot that this thread was on the MSB. Maybe that's why it has played out pretty well. On the PT, this thread may have ended up much differently
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:04 pm to vengeanceofrain
I wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't care. It's so inconsequential, and who needs to "belong" anyway?
But I don't blame you, you'll find much of the same wherever you go with few exceptions
Just s byproduct of stupidity, political correctness and having fewer individuals.
But I don't blame you, you'll find much of the same wherever you go with few exceptions
Just s byproduct of stupidity, political correctness and having fewer individuals.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:47 pm to vengeanceofrain
Interesting post and perspective. Thanks for posting.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:28 pm to vengeanceofrain
Holy shite bro are you my twin? A 
to you.
You're completely right. Especially about women.
to you. You're completely right. Especially about women.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:56 pm to vengeanceofrain
quote:
I'm a black computer programmer that lives in the south. I'm about as popular as ebola lol.
quote:
You say you watch shite like Breaking bad or mad men or the west wing and you get looked at by black people as white. You like jazz instead of rap, even though jazz is really black lol, you get looked at as "white".
where in the world do you live?
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:45 am to vengeanceofrain
quote:
I'm that guy IRL. I'm black, but not "black". I know exactly what they are talking about.
Meh. I experienced much of the same but that was only through high school. I think it's a maturity issue more than anything else. There are "black" people who I'd say are my friends and while I'm sure they think I'm weird or not "black enough" it's never an issue because I'm secure and confident about who I am.
As far as black women go it's definitely an age thing. 30+ single black women love me; I pretty much have to beat them away with a stick.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:35 am to vengeanceofrain
I don't know how old you are but as a white man in my 40's I know several professional black women who did not marry that street style black man. They married educated black men.
You're fishing in the wrong ponds. Go where the grad students hang out or to where young professionals go after work.
You're fishing in the wrong ponds. Go where the grad students hang out or to where young professionals go after work.
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