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re: Report: Autopsy analysis shows Michael Brown may have gone for Wilson’s gun
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:34 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:34 pm to Ace Midnight
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Surely you don't agree that it would have been reasonable to shoot Brown if he was surrendering, do you?
I guess you missed the point about not being able to use deadly force if the offender retreats ?
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"Officer called him over to the car, so he went. Officer asked for ID, so Michael reached for his wallet. Officer grabbed him and they scuffled a little bit through the window. The officer went for his gun, so Michael, fearing for his life, fought for control over the gun. The gun discharged, either by Officer Wilson on purpose, or accidentally during the scuffle. Once the weapon fired, Michael, in a panic, ran away. The officer got out and ordered Michael to stop. Michael complied, turned around and was shot and killed."
An officer never pulls someone into the vehicle toward their person, especially a 6'4'' 300 lb man.
You don't reach for your weapon unless a serious battery or attempt to disarm is brought upon you.
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Okay - having said that - this is purely conjecture - it's the best story I can come up with that comports with what we know of the objective evidence. Heck, this might be exactly how it went down.
Sounds like the typical defense attorney's frame of events. Highly, highly unlikely.
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This is not demonstrated by the evidence, beyond a reasonable doubt, so the officer walks on murder, manslaughter, the shooting, everything.
Yes, I agree on this.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:41 pm to 91TIGER
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An officer never pulls someone into the vehicle toward their person, especially a 6'4'' 300 lb man.
You don't reach for your weapon unless a serious battery or attempt to disarm is brought upon you.
So that it's clear - this isn't my theory - this is the best possible theory I can put forward from Brown's perspective. Obviously we can't sue the city if we agree that Brown rushed the officer first, shoved him back in the car forcefully, beat him about the head and shoulders and tried to disarm him - all as the first moves in a deadly chess game, now, can I?
And just because something isn't protocol, doesn't mean cops don't do it all the time - just sayin'...
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Sounds like the typical defense attorney's frame of events. Highly, highly unlikely.
Except, ironically, in this case, for a criminal prosecution to advance, the prosecutor would have to forward some variant on this version to even survive. It rules out using the officer's version because that = acquittal.
And I agree - highly unlikely. But it is not contradicted by the objective evidence, which was my point - working from the evidence out, to reasonable possible timelines and sequences.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:07 pm to 91TIGER
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An officer never pulls someone into the vehicle toward their person, especially a 6'4'' 300 lb man.
Since all the eyewitnesses, including Dorian Johnson, said that there was an altercation in the car, this is probably the biggest thing in Wilson's favor.
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