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re: CDC head slammed for blaming nurse infected with Ebola

Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:44 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:44 am to
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And both are specifically referenced in CDC documents to be avoided. When it is absolutely necessary there are additional requirements.
Right.
The problem being Intubation/Ventilation is not only NOT an AGP, it generates a sealed system preventing aerosol production/distribution. IOW it eliminates aerosol risk as compared to an unsecured airway.

Dialysis has nothing whatsoever to do with AGP's.

Both procedures are performed as lifesaving in instances of massive infection. Without them, the patient dies.

Again, I have no idea WTF Frieden was referencing as "risky" in this case. To be blunt, neither does Frieden. He is an embarrassment.

Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16345 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:49 am to
I'm calling it now. Ft Worth will be ground zero for the zombie apocalypse now that ebola has reached a pharmaceutical company.

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Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35497 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:54 am to
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Right.
The problem being Intubation/Ventilation is not only NOT an AGP, it generates a sealed system preventing aerosol production/distribution. IOW it eliminates aerosol risk as compared to an unsecured airway.
From the CDC:
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Although there are limited data available to definitively define a list of AGPs, procedures that are usually included are Bilevel Positive Airway Pressure (BiPAP), bronchoscopy, sputum induction, intubation and extubation, and open suctioning of airways.
I don't know about the dialysis, but I guess it could depend on the type and what procedures were followed. I would go with what the CDC says on it.

While knowing that intubation can be life saving, I can see why the CDC recommends against it. By that point an Ebola victim is probably too far gone anyway.
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