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re: Top College Coaches With Poor Seasons Including Bad Losses

Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:19 pm to
Very solid post.

I'm not sure if you've ever heard Larry Bird's theory on this. While I don't know the exact stats, I know for sure he quit coaching the pacers at a time when everyone else thought he was at his absolute prime.

He left though anyway. When pressed as to why, he simply stated that after about 5 years, human nature dictates that a person has less passion, drive, and energy for their current coaching situation. As a result, coaches just flat out lose some of their effectiveness after time.

Stoops was great early on. Just another good coach after the first five years. Same way w/saban at Bama. CUM at Florida. Miles at LSU. The recent LSU teams have looked NOTHING like that 2007 crew. Or 2005. Even Miles good teams as of late don't seem all that energized.

Here's the rub though. IMO, a season like this one reignites that fire. So, rather than run a really successful coach off, that seemingly loves this program, I'd rather sit through the occasional stinker of a season than try and find a new coach that may could be better than the winningest coach we've ever had.

Will it make 2014 any easier? Nah. But if long term, consistent success is what you're after, you'd prolly be smart to embrace what we've got.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16660 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:33 pm to
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Here's the rub though. IMO, a season like this one reignites that fire. So, rather than run a really successful coach off, that seemingly loves this program, I'd rather sit through the occasional stinker of a season than try and find a new coach that may could be better than the winningest coach we've ever had.


I would prefer 10X over that Les "reignite" than go through a coaching change. And I agree with the earlier post by "Ron Swanson" that Les just doesn't seem like the same coach from his earlier days.

But here's why I don't see a "reignition event" happening:

a) If Les needed one for this season he should have come away from the State game on fire. He didn't. Instead, we were treated to a replay. Gettting his butt kicked by Mullen had zero effect.

b) If Les needed it for his career at LSU why didn't the last two season do it? We had all this NFL talent and we get to the Chick-fil-A and the Outback bowls. No championships. NO BCS bowls. Were those "success"?

Posted by RonSwanson
Mike's penthouse
Member since Dec 2011
523 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:59 pm to
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I'm not sure if you've ever heard Larry Bird's theory on this


No, but it absolutely makes sense and is exactly what you are seeing in the SEC West right now.

The top half of the West standings, right now, are all filled with coaches who have something to prove and are in the process of climbing the top.

Like Mack Brown said it's harder to stay at the top than to get there.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Bossierboy
Bossier
Member since Sep 2005
664 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:57 pm to

I needed to hear that. I for one have had my share of meltdowns. He'll look at my posts from the last couple weeks. Good stuff.
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