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re: Brady Hoke's meeechigan tenure, B1G perspective needed

Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:11 am to
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:11 am to
He decommitted when he took a visit to NCState on Saturday
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:13 am to
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This is what keeps me from going insane about Miles. The coach has his faults, but I have seen many of big time schools botch a coaching search.


for sho

you could end up with a Fran type that sets your program back 10 years.
Posted by LSUSoulja08
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:14 am to
my link says Monday night actually, but I'm sure you follow UM recruiting closer than I do
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:16 am to
5* TE Chris Clark is going to decommitt as well. He just posted on his twitter that if Michigan fires Hoke "that changes everything". He chose Michigan over Ohio St and Michigan St.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:18 am to
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I thought it was a terrible hire. He's had a couple of good seasons as a coach and several mediocre seasons. His recruiting has been imbalanced and his player development is non existent.


Agreed. It just seemed to be a transparent fallback hire after Harbaugh and Miles weren't interested.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:18 am to
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over Ohio St and Michigan St.


Really chose Michigan over PSU and Bama
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:19 am to
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Agreed. It just seemed to be a transparent fallback hire after Harbaugh and Miles weren't interested.


Miles wasnt a candidate
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:20 am to
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Miles wasnt a candidate



I never said he was.

That doesn't mean they wouldn't have considered him if he'd relayed discernible interest.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 11:21 am
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:20 am to
Just not an all around good coach. Especially for a school that has such expectations. Michigan is a national school with a powerful fanbase. When I worked on Wall Street it was full of Ross alums. Those people expect results. Not national championships EVERY year but that the OSU-UM game should be meaningful enough to have major implications.

Posted by Buckeye Backer
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:21 am to
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Chris Clark has taken multiple visits to Columbus. I think he ends up being a Buckeye.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:21 am to
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I never said he was.

That doesn't mean they wouldn't have considered him if he'd relayed discernible interest.



He did have interest. He was not, and never was going to be a candidate last time. Brandon hates him. Brandon is team Lloyd/Moeller.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:22 am to
Things are changing since the 90s

LINK
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:22 am to
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Chris Clark has taken multiple visits to Columbus. I think he ends up being a Buckeye.


I didnt say yall didnt recruit him. But you wernt in his top 3 when he committed. He will end up at Bama if we have room for him. PSU if we dont.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:24 am to
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He did have interest. He was not, and never was going to be a candidate last time. Brandon hates him. Brandon is team Lloyd/Moeller.



Okay, then that further proves that Brandon is one of the more incompetent ADs in the country.

Still, I have to believe that if Miles was trying to show interest, he was just trying to leverage it for a raise. He did the same thing with our job before we hired Bielema.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:25 am to
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Okay, then that further proves that Brandon is one of the more incompetent ADs in the country.



No debate from me there

ETA: Wouldnt be surprised to see Long replace him


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he was just trying to leverage it for a raise.


Well he took the job the first time around, so I think it was a little more than just gaining leverage.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 11:26 am
Posted by VABuckeye
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:29 am to
Agree about Clark. He's a douche anyway so Bama or PSU can have him.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:29 am to
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No it isnt. Until the last cycle Michigan and State haven't been competing for the same kids on the recruiting trail. State has done a great job at finding lower ranked kids and developing them into great college players. Michigan has been recruiting the same blue chip kids that they always have. Both schools can be successful.



Agreed

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The problem is Brady isnt a very good coach, and outside of Greg Mattison hasn't hired good assistants. The best coach outside of Mattison left because Michigan wouldn't give him a raise, and now they have a coach, coaching a position that he never has solely to keep him on staff.



Fred Jackson was a pretty good RB coach, and a nice guy, but apart from him and Mattison, that's definitely a concern. I'm surprised he didn't fire Funk along with A. Borges last year (wonder how he was as a recruiter, though). I also Forgot about Jerry Montgomery, but he left for OU a few yrs ago.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 11:31 am
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:32 am to
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Fred Jackson was a pretty good RB coach


Was being the key word there

And I think Brady is a GREAT DL coach. I would like him and Mattison to switch jobs for the rest of the year.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:34 am to
Just saw this

Posted by SadSouthernBuck
Las Vegas
Member since Dec 2007
748 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:53 am to
Hoke is a career .500 coach. He had one good year at Ball State, jumped to SDSU for a year and then took the Michigan job.
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