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Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:04 am
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:04 am
not a major level of violence but one of many racist or bigoted behaviors by Israeli Jews. Please read the entire article. If you think they are sweet angelic figures, no, they are a hateful bunch.
Remember, these are not Muslims who are being spat upon.
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A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window.
By Amiram Barkat | Oct. 12, 2004 | 12:00 AM | 21
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A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.
The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews. Many Jerusalem clergy have been subjected to abuse of this kind. For the most part, they ignore it but sometimes they cannot.
On Sunday, a fracas developed when a yeshiva student spat at the cross being carried by the Armenian Archbishop during a procession near the Holy Sepulchre in the Old City. The archbishop's 17th-century cross was broken during the brawl and he slapped the yeshiva student.
Both were questioned by police and the yeshiva student will be brought to trial. The Jerusalem District Court has meanwhile banned the student from approaching the Old City for 75 days.
But the Armenians are far from satisfied by the police action and say this sort of thing has been going on for years. Archbishop Nourhan Manougian says he expects the education minister to say something.
"When there is an attack against Jews anywhere in the world, the Israeli government is incensed, so why when our religion and pride are hurt, don't they take harsher measures?" he asks.
According to Daniel Rossing, former adviser to the Religious Affairs Ministry on Christian affairs and director of a Jerusalem center for Christian-Jewish dialogue, there has been an increase in the number of such incidents recently, "as part of a general atmosphere of lack of tolerance in the country."
Rossing says there are certain common characeristics from the point of view of time and location to the incidents. He points to the fact that there are more incidents in areas where Jews and Christians mingle, such as the Jewish and Armenian quarters of the Old City and the Jaffa Gate.
There are an increased number at certain times of year, such as during the Purim holiday."I know Christians who lock themselves indoors during the entire Purim holiday," he says.
Former adviser to the mayor on Christian affairs, Shmuel Evyatar, describes the situation as "a huge disgrace." He says most of the instigators are yeshiva students studying in the Old City who view the Christian religion with disdain.
"I'm sure the phenomenon would end as soon as rabbis and well-known educators denounce it. In practice, rabbis of yeshivas ignore or even encourage it," he says.
Evyatar says he himself was spat at while walking with a Serbian bishop in the Jewish quarter, near his home. "A group of yeshiva students spat at us and their teacher just stood by and watched."
Jerusalem municipal officials said they are aware of the problem but it has to be dealt with by the police. Shmuel Ben-Ruby, the police spokesman, said they had only two complaints from Christians in the past two years. He said that, in both cases, the culprits were caught and punished.
He said the police deploy an inordinately high number of patrols and special technology in the Old City and its surroundings in an attempt to keep order.
Remember, these are not Muslims who are being spat upon.
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A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window.
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A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.
The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews. Many Jerusalem clergy have been subjected to abuse of this kind. For the most part, they ignore it but sometimes they cannot.
On Sunday, a fracas developed when a yeshiva student spat at the cross being carried by the Armenian Archbishop during a procession near the Holy Sepulchre in the Old City. The archbishop's 17th-century cross was broken during the brawl and he slapped the yeshiva student.
Both were questioned by police and the yeshiva student will be brought to trial. The Jerusalem District Court has meanwhile banned the student from approaching the Old City for 75 days.
But the Armenians are far from satisfied by the police action and say this sort of thing has been going on for years. Archbishop Nourhan Manougian says he expects the education minister to say something.
"When there is an attack against Jews anywhere in the world, the Israeli government is incensed, so why when our religion and pride are hurt, don't they take harsher measures?" he asks.
According to Daniel Rossing, former adviser to the Religious Affairs Ministry on Christian affairs and director of a Jerusalem center for Christian-Jewish dialogue, there has been an increase in the number of such incidents recently, "as part of a general atmosphere of lack of tolerance in the country."
Rossing says there are certain common characeristics from the point of view of time and location to the incidents. He points to the fact that there are more incidents in areas where Jews and Christians mingle, such as the Jewish and Armenian quarters of the Old City and the Jaffa Gate.
There are an increased number at certain times of year, such as during the Purim holiday."I know Christians who lock themselves indoors during the entire Purim holiday," he says.
Former adviser to the mayor on Christian affairs, Shmuel Evyatar, describes the situation as "a huge disgrace." He says most of the instigators are yeshiva students studying in the Old City who view the Christian religion with disdain.
"I'm sure the phenomenon would end as soon as rabbis and well-known educators denounce it. In practice, rabbis of yeshivas ignore or even encourage it," he says.
Evyatar says he himself was spat at while walking with a Serbian bishop in the Jewish quarter, near his home. "A group of yeshiva students spat at us and their teacher just stood by and watched."
Jerusalem municipal officials said they are aware of the problem but it has to be dealt with by the police. Shmuel Ben-Ruby, the police spokesman, said they had only two complaints from Christians in the past two years. He said that, in both cases, the culprits were caught and punished.
He said the police deploy an inordinately high number of patrols and special technology in the Old City and its surroundings in an attempt to keep order.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:17 am to rtts48
Not excusing this by any means but why would Christians want to live or be overtly Christian in more fundamentalist areas of Israel in the first place?
There are literally hundreds of other countries (or progressive areas of Israel, for that matter) to live in freely.
There are literally hundreds of other countries (or progressive areas of Israel, for that matter) to live in freely.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 6:19 am
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:32 am to rtts48
quote:you're pretty new, so if I were you, I would familiarize myself with the term:
Rtts48
TLDR
usually, this is the reply you will get when copy and paste a lengthy article. Especially when you don't proof it and remove extraneous text that has no bearing on the article.
Oh, and......
TLDR.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:14 am to rtts48
Dude you have a Trackfan like posting history. Holy fixation with da Joos.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:21 am to rtts48
quote:
not a major level of violence but one of many racist or bigoted behaviors by Israeli Jews.
So a couple of instances of really mild bigotry and we can conclude?
My little sister lives in Jerusalem. She tells interesting stories.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:33 am to rtts48
The world would be much better off without religion. You don't wonder if the supreme diety could do his own spitting?
Of course he could, which is why the fundamentalists are usually the ones with the biggest doubts. The truth will win in the end, that religions create us vs them mentalities and foster division, violence, and drama. I can't wait for a pan-arab atheist movement to get some traction. I believe the instability in these Islamic areas is actually a symptom of religious doubt, not religious fervor.
Of course he could, which is why the fundamentalists are usually the ones with the biggest doubts. The truth will win in the end, that religions create us vs them mentalities and foster division, violence, and drama. I can't wait for a pan-arab atheist movement to get some traction. I believe the instability in these Islamic areas is actually a symptom of religious doubt, not religious fervor.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:47 am to rtts48
Someone can spit on me all they want but just know that I'm going to ball up my fist and try to break my hand on their face
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:07 am to rtts48
These are the same Christians that Ted Cruz declared war on a couple of weeks in a performance, which so infuriated conservative writer Rod Dreher, that he said he wouldn't vote for Cruz if he was running against Al Sharpton.
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