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re: The OK beheading guy had converted to Islam

Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:37 am to
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Estimates of those believing in Sharia are anywhere from 50-79%.


Yeah, but that's classic Arab/Muslim claptrap - they each define it in their own way. If it is something with which they personally disagree with, they say, "Oh. That's not 'Sharia'."

Westernized Muslims are much like Methodists.

Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51881 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:48 am to
The questions posed in some of those polls were very specific and to the point as to their beliefs.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
91319 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:54 am to
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The questions posed in some of those polls were very specific and to the point as to their beliefs.


You want to be more specific and/or post a link?

I've been around Muslims much of my adult life. I had great working relationships with Albanian Muslims in Kosovo, and Egyptian Muslims in Iraq. I've had a few associates of Palestinian extraction, who were also Muslim.

By and large, they're not frothing at the mouth, kill all Christian infidel loonies. They want the same things we all want - to be left alone, raise their kids, make a living.

If you're saying that 79% of Muslims believe in 'Sharia' and that definition of 'Sharia' is women not driving, forced dress/conduct codes in public, honor killings, forced genital mutilation, all the unpleasantness associated with what we think of the word, 'Sharia', then I'd have to look at the raw data, because that is completely at odds with my actual experience with actual Muslims.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 11:55 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51881 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:57 am to
It's a mixture of those three links I posted on the previous page. Check it out. Google % of muslims that are for Sharia and read some of that information. Fascinating stuff.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27912 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:42 pm to
Not wanting to start a new thread if it's already been discussed, but this CNN report says the killer was stopped by a the company owner who had a gun. Probably saved at least one life. Just fodder for the discussion...

LINK

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Police accuse him of beheading one woman and attacking another before being shot by the company CEO, also a reserve deputy. Nolen was in stable condition Monday.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
20298 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 4:02 pm to
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Not wanting to start a new thread if it's already been discussed, but this CNN report says the killer was stopped by a the company owner who had a gun. Probably saved at least one life. Just fodder for the discussion


Kudos to that guy. I just wish he was a better shot or kept pumping rounds in the POS.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 5:25 pm to
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Read about the guy's history. People need to stop hyperventilating about every crime that happens and trying to prove it's part of some grand threat we are facing. It isn't. He was a violent loon with a proven violent loon history.


If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and acts like a duck then it's a duck.

BTW, if he is just going to be charged with an act of workplace violence then does that mean he also won't be charged with committing a hate crime?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:20 pm to
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"The Gazette reports that Nolen has a long history with the local police department. He has been arrested at least 10 times by Idabel police between 2004 and 2009, on "allegations ranging from assault, burglary, obstructing an officer, resisting arrest, drug possession, and larceny," among other unlisted charges.


Isn't that the resume of a typical ISIS member?
Posted by Matrixman
Texas
Member since Apr 2010
719 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:47 am to
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and had tried to convert co-workers to the peaceful religion.


Just a preliminary tuneup. The widespead beheadings gonna follow as soon as obama gets his "back-off" policy implemented at the FBI and Homeland Security.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 7:49 am
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