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DAT: 9/23 Still going for 70 wins
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:40 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:40 am
Here's an impressive note.
Jabroni will come up 7.1 innings of the threshold for ERA rankings.
Had he qualified, he would be 6th in the AL
McHugh's numbers:
154.2 innings, 2.73 ERA, 11-9 record. Hell of a season.
And next year's potential rotation:
Feldman
Keuchel
McHugh
Oberholtzer
Folty/Trop/Peacock/Free Agent
Jabroni will come up 7.1 innings of the threshold for ERA rankings.
Had he qualified, he would be 6th in the AL
McHugh's numbers:
154.2 innings, 2.73 ERA, 11-9 record. Hell of a season.
And next year's potential rotation:
Feldman
Keuchel
McHugh
Oberholtzer
Folty/Trop/Peacock/Free Agent
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:43 am to TXGunslinger10
Great season. Take out that terrible month where he had the blister problem and he's probably sub 2.50.
I love his makeup on the mound and that delivery will hold up over time. If we sign a legit ace this off season we could have a top staff with Dallas, jabrone, feldman as the 5th.
I love his makeup on the mound and that delivery will hold up over time. If we sign a legit ace this off season we could have a top staff with Dallas, jabrone, feldman as the 5th.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:51 am to Tiger Ryno
I'm kind of in the same boat.
I like Folty in the pen, and we still have plenty of time with Tropeano that he could start the season in AAA and be our first call up when somebody hits the DL.
But a solid FA starter could make this rotation pretty scary. Assuming everybody in the rotation next year can stay consistent to their numbers this year
I like Folty in the pen, and we still have plenty of time with Tropeano that he could start the season in AAA and be our first call up when somebody hits the DL.
But a solid FA starter could make this rotation pretty scary. Assuming everybody in the rotation next year can stay consistent to their numbers this year
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:23 am to TXGunslinger10
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still have plenty of time with Tropeano
no, no, no... Ryno says that he doesn't have MLB makeup. He's not going to stick.
For discussions... some "top" FAs for this off-season. Scherzer would be nice, but I really don't like the idea of having another huge contract that could potentially be another Carlos Lee situation.
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1. Max Scherzer. Scherzer has a 3.07 ERA in eight starts since the power rankings were last published. The 30-year-old ranks second in the AL with 220 strikeouts, fifth with 187 2/3 innings, 13th with a 3.26 ERA, and 5th with a 2.84 SIERA. His Tigers are a good bet for the playoffs, which would mark Scherzer’s fourth consecutive postseason. Scherzer could secure the largest free agent contract ever signed by a pitcher, a record currently held by C.C. Sabathia‘s seven-year, $161MM deal from six years ago. More recently, free agent Masahiro Tanaka required a $175MM commitment, but $20MM of that was paid to his former team. Both of those pitchers received opt-out clauses, a likely goal for Scherzer.
2. Jon Lester. Lester ranks fourth in the AL with a 2.55 ERA, fifth with 186 strikeouts, sixth with 183 2/3 innings, and eighth with a 3.06 SIERA. He hasn’t missed a beat since being traded to the Athletics at the July deadline. Because of the trade, Lester boasts a free agency advantage of not being eligible for a qualifying offer after the season. He’s headed to the playoffs for the fifth time in his career. Lester is only six months older than Scherzer, and some teams shopping in the high-end of the free agent pitching market may prefer him. The Red Sox told Lester they’ll be aggressive in trying to sign him as a free agent, and the lefty says he’s prioritizing his family’s happiness over money.
3. James Shields. Shields currently leads all free agent starters with 192 innings, but Scherzer could temporarily overtake him Thursday with a decent outing. At 33 years old in December, Shields belongs slightly below the Scherzer/Lester tier in what is shaping up to be the best trio of free agent starters since this website began nine years ago. Shields is looking to reach the playoffs for the fourth time in his career with a Royals club that hasn’t been there since 1985. ESPN’s Buster Olney and WEEI’s Rob Bradford have suggested the Red Sox could make a play for Shields. A four-year deal for Shields would be easier to stomach than six or seven years for Scherzer or Lester, although a strong finish could give Big Game James a case for five years.
4. Hanley Ramirez. Ramirez spent a few weeks on the DL in August for an oblique strain. It was his first DL stint of the year, though he missed around 15 games previously due to various ailments. The 30-year-old is beginning to look injury-prone, and his bat will be less impressive if he doesn’t stick at shortstop for most of his next contract. The game is flush with cash, but is this a $100MM player?
5. Pablo Sandoval. Sandoval has proven to be a useful player who hits for average with slightly above-average pop and surprisingly solid defense given his physique. He’s a better hitter than Chase Headley and is much younger than Aramis Ramirez, so Sandoval is the best third baseman available. The Giants seem likely to make a play to re-sign him.
6. Victor Martinez. Martinez has been on fire since our last set of power rankings, hitting .344/.433/.526 in 180 plate appearances. He’s been among the best hitters in all of baseball this year, and no other free agent comes close to his 2014 production. Martinez is mostly a designated hitter at this point, and he’ll turn 36 in December. He’ll probably find a team willing to take their chances on a three-year deal, possibly in excess of the $45MM Carlos Beltran received.
7. Yasmani Tomas. Last month, Rusney Castillo set a Cuban free agent record in signing a seven-year, $72.5MM contract with the Red Sox. Tomas is a different type of outfielder, a corner guy with middle of the order power. He’s also younger, at 24 years old in November. The Phillies have been linked to Tomas in the early going, but he still has to be cleared by the Office of Foreign Assets Control before becoming a free agent. Once that happens, Tomas could have the widest market of anyone on this list given his age.
8. Melky Cabrera. Cabrera’s solid campaign continues, as he’s hitting .305/.355/.464 in 605 plate appearances. He recently turned 30 and figures to aim for a five-year deal. He may only achieve three or four, owing to subpar defense, a potential qualifying offer, and his 2012 suspension for using performance-enhancing drugs.
9. Russell Martin. By measure of Fangraphs wins above replacement, Martin has been roughly as valuable as Jose Bautista this year while playing in 70% as many games. Martin has been one of the best catchers in all of baseball, with an uncharacteristic .414 OBP and his typical excellent defensive work. It’s hard to find even a surefire starter among the other free agent catchers, so the 31-year-old Martin is about to cash in. A four-year deal north of $50MM seems possible.
10. Nelson Cruz. Cruz leads MLB with 36 home runs, yet he’s tumbled from sixth to tenth on this list. The 34-year-old’s success amounts to two good months to start the season, after which he’s hitting .214/.282/.406 in 340 plate appearances. He could still reach 40 home runs, which can’t be ignored, but with another qualifying offer Cruz might find free agency disappointing again. Cruz said recently he’d like to work out an extension with the Orioles before the end of the season, but talks to date have been casual.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:32 am to Floating Change Up
I don't think a single name on that list would be a good sign for the Astros.
ETA: they're good players, but I just don't see us coughing up that kind of money.
ETA: they're good players, but I just don't see us coughing up that kind of money.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:40 am to TXGunslinger10
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I don't think a single name on that list would be a good sign for the Astros.
ETA: they're good players, but I just don't see us coughing up that kind of money.
I agree 100%.
How about you Ryno -- who would be a good FA signing for the Astros? As a GM, what would you do this off season?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:54 am to Floating Change Up
Good thing is that no one really cares enough to put pressure on them like the rockets and texans are getting.
A big signy may happen just to get butts in the seats though
A big signy may happen just to get butts in the seats though
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:06 am to Floating Change Up
I would take headly and sherzer....trade fowler for a ML stop gap SS.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:18 am to Tiger Ryno
I like Headley. I wanted him 2 years ago.
Scherzer is not an option. He would make more than Crane.
Scherzer is not an option. He would make more than Crane.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:20 am to TXGunslinger10
Their payroll is shite. They can afford a big fish. 3 year deal for big money. Maybe 4.
You have to start showing the fans you are serious.
You have to start showing the fans you are serious.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:21 am to Tiger Ryno
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I would take headly and sherzer...
Serious question -- what are you willing to give those guys? What kind of contract?
As for Fowler for SS -- no sure who we could get for fowler that would be an improvement on what we have. Fowler's contract is going to limit his trade potential.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:22 am to Tiger Ryno
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3 year deal for big money. Maybe 4.
Those guys are wanting 5 to 7 years, and they'll get it.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:23 am to Floating Change Up
I would go 5 on Sherzer. He'll be 35 at the end of the deal.you will likely get at least 3 very good years from him
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:25 am to Floating Change Up
Not to mention, those guys want to play for contenders
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:28 am to Tiger Ryno
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I would go 5 on Sherzer.
5 @ how much money? 5 @ 18 - 22 mil? $25MM?
Here's my thing -- "3 very good years" -- you burn next year because the lineup is still too young to get you very far with the talent in the division.
So that means you're really paying 5 years to get you 2 meaningful season. Is it really worth it?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:30 am to Floating Change Up
You're spot on Changeup.
Think about if this way. If we win 2 of our last 5 this year, we will have improved by 20 games.
And that's still 27 games out of first in this division.
ETA: and 17 games out of 2nd/wild card
Think about if this way. If we win 2 of our last 5 this year, we will have improved by 20 games.
And that's still 27 games out of first in this division.
ETA: and 17 games out of 2nd/wild card
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:45 am to Floating Change Up
Why not spend the money you could splash on one big starter for three good vets for the bullpen? That's what they need while they continue to sort out the young arms who can potentially start long-term.
Let's say Keuchel and Jabroni are legit. Appel seems on track to reach the rotation soon enough. There are other options who need MLB starts to determine if they are legit. Let that play out another season.
Let's say Keuchel and Jabroni are legit. Appel seems on track to reach the rotation soon enough. There are other options who need MLB starts to determine if they are legit. Let that play out another season.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:00 am to Jwho77
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Why not spend the money you could splash on one big starter for three good vets for the bullpen? That's what they need while they continue to sort out the young arms who can potentially start long-term.
Let's say Keuchel and Jabroni are legit. Appel seems on track to reach the rotation soon enough. There are other options who need MLB starts to determine if they are legit. Let that play out another season.
I agree. Put the money towards the best bullpen money can buy. Make some trades if necessary. But eliminate the black hole in the bull pen and actually put some talent there -- this club has a whole new attitude.
And a legit dominant closer will do wonders for the club. It would allow Qualls to stay in the 8th inning - where he excels. You lock down 8th and 9th innings -- the rest of the pen becomes easier to manage.
If you're Luhnow, do you try to bring back Fat Alberst and Crain? (can you even call it "bringing them back"?)
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:07 am to Floating Change Up
If you actually think the two are going to be healthy and can get them cheap, why not? But they have to compete for jobs, not have them guaranteed.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:48 am to Jwho77
They both should be healthy and cheap(er) next year. Hell they only pitched a combined 2 weeks this season. Nobody will throw a ton of money on a maybe.
Plus, resigning with us would be the professional thing for them to do considering we paid them a combined 5 million for them NOT to pitch this year.
Plus, resigning with us would be the professional thing for them to do considering we paid them a combined 5 million for them NOT to pitch this year.
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