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re: Play Calling Response Thread

Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6650 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:32 pm to
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I think Jennings passed on 1st down nine times. Seven of those in the first half.

Again, it's not that LSU went pass happy. An adjustment to the scheme made the difference. A coaching adjustment.


So let me get this straight, the negatigers said we should have started the game "more open" like in the 2nd half, and yet we threw it MORE in the first half?

All this math. what does it all mean.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6650 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:33 pm to
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Many of these guys really do take wins too hard. This one was most likely very hard on them as the coaching staff let them rant and rave for a half only to dash their hopes.


As an LSU fan it's hard to say, but sometimes I wish they would never win just so people would be happier around here.
Posted by thend15
Member since Nov 2013
12 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:37 pm to
The 3 WR set change saved the night. And the coaches did it. So why are you so bent out of shape? Had the screens been caught, and the TE's executed their passes, then we wouldn't have had to move to the 3 WR Singleback and shotgun formations. Unfortunately our youth and inexperience didn't let us execute from the I, which is historically where we thrive, but we also proved that our offense can respond to coaching adjustments, no matter how drastic, and gel. It's the first game. Chill. There will be frustrations, but we beat a damn good football team without half the best CB duo in the nation and the DLine playing with essentially both hands tied behind it's back. Don't worry, be happy. Tigers win.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6650 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:39 pm to
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It took till the first drive of the 4th Quarter before we stopped running at a stacked box.


You failed to notice what has been said a few times already. But there was a reason LSU ran to "the box".

And I seem to recall many runs in the 4th quarter directly into "the box". So, no, it didn't "take till the first drive to of the 4th...."

Pounding the box for 3 quarters allowed us to pound the box successfully in the 4th.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7541 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:40 pm to
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So let me get this straight, the negatigers said we should have started the game "more open" like in the 2nd half, and yet we threw it MORE in the first half?

All this math. what does it all mean.


When did a lot of the passes come in the 1st half? A lot of them came on 3rd down after two running plays getting us an average of 2 yards. If you can't understand that I'm sorry.

When we passed on early downs, we had big plays. Try to keep up. I'm tired of repeating so many things.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7541 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:43 pm to
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Pounding the box for 3 quarters allowed us to pound the box successfully in the 4th.



Show me where we had an abundant amount of success running the football in the 4th Quarter outside of the one drive of 3 running plays. Which I've already stated they changed defenses to stop the WR's.

When they went back to the 3-4 we struggled to move the ball and ice the game. If we truly were dominating the line of scrimmage like some of y'all suggest, we wouldn't have given them the football back with 2 minutes left in the game.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6650 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:43 pm to

quote:

When did a lot of the passes come in the 1st half?



quote:

I think Jennings passed on 1st down nine times. Seven of those in the first half.


Try to keep up, we're tired of making you look stupid.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6650 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:43 pm to
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Show me where we had an abundant amount of success running the football in the 4th Quarter


YOu might want to do a google search on "Kenny Hilliard".

He's a RB for LSU ya know.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 7:45 pm
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28378 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:45 pm to
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When did a lot of the passes come in the 1st half?


3rd and 5
1st and 10
3rd and 5
1st and 10
3rd and 11
3rd and 6
1st and 10
2nd and 16
1st and 10
1st and 10
3rd and 8
3rd and 9
1st and 10
1st and 10
1st and 10
2nd and 10
3rd and 10
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:46 pm to
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Stop making excuses for LSU. 


I dont have to make excuses. Lsu beat a top 15 team at neutral site.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6650 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:47 pm to
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If we truly were dominating the line of scrimmage like some of y'all suggest, we wouldn't have given them the football back with 2 minutes left in the game.


Oh, so you only dominate a game if you NEVER punt? So we didn't dominate the 4th cause we punted w/ 2min left.

Herpty-derp.

And if Peyton Manning was so good, how come he throws incompletions
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7541 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:51 pm to
So LSU had 14 First Downs in the First Half.
6 of the 1st downs were runs for a total of 9 yards.
8 of the plays were passes for 113 and a 15 yard penalty. 3 of those came on the drive before halftime where we had to pass the football.

First Quarter:
1st and 10: Hilliard run of 3 yards
1st and 10: Maggee run for no gain

1st and 10: Pass to Hilliard for 10 yards; 1st Down
1st and 10: Hilliard run for 3 yards

1st and 10: 80 yard touchdown pass to Dural

1st and 10: Jennings run for a loss of 3 yards

2nd Quarter
1st and 10: Magee run for 4 yards

1st and 10: Pass incomplete to Dural

1st and 10: 11 yard pass to Quinn
1st and 10: Incomplete pass to Smith, catchable ball

1st and 10: Quinn rushed for 2 yards

1st and 10: 12 yard pass to Hilliard
1st and 10: pass interference to Dural
1st and 10: Pass incomplete to Quinn
Posted by LawAbidingFan
USA
Member since Jul 2014
123 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:59 pm to
Watch again bro. The pass to Quinn wasn't where it should have been. He actually had to make adjustments to the ball which gave the defender a chance to grab his arm. Watch it again. You make it sound he didn't do his job. Had it been a better thrown ball and there wasn't a defender pulling his arm away as the ball got there it would have been caught. Yes it would have been great to seen it caught but with the off hand being pulled away he would have had to backhand it with one handed! However without making the same mistake as you and making a player look bad Jennings did his best because he really didn't have much time to get off many good passes the first half. Remember as the season goes on this team will get better. The second half the whole team grew up a lot!
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7541 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:00 pm to
Every LSU fan in this thread has said LSU runs the ball till they turn blue so that in the 4th Quarter they can dominate.

The important point in the game for LSU to finish the game, this was the drive:

1st and 10: Magee rush for 2
2nd and 8: Hilliard rush for 2
3rd and 6: Hilliard rush for 17(off tackle out of the shotgun)
1st and 10: Hilliard rush for 2
2nd and 8: Hilliard rush for 5
3rd and 3: Fournette rush for a loss of 3

Yea that is successful LSU smash mouth offense. The one big run came out of the shotgun, while the others were Power I.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7541 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:01 pm to
No. The 2nd and 20 pass to Quinn is the one you are referencing. Going down the sidelines before Diarse's Touchdown.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6650 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:03 pm to


You truly are an idiot.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7541 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:05 pm to
Yea. I'm truly an idiot while I back up everything I say countering things you say.

I thought LSU's style of football was to wear a team out and gash them in the 4th. That is what plenty of y'all said.

Though the one drive we gashed them was opened because of the passing attack; not by wearing them down.

FWIW I'm going back to the exact point in the game rewatching it before I post, and using the stats from the game to back me up.

I think a few of you are a little hyped up from the dramatic and awesome comeback. But at the same time are blinded by the fact we didn't play as great of a game as some of y'all seem to think.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 8:08 pm
Posted by roscoe mike
Member since Nov 2009
1578 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:07 pm to
The irony in all this bitching about conservative play calling is the first score of the season is an 80 yard pass; and this is the same coaching staff that had two 1000 yard receivers last season...you people just like to bitch.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6650 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:09 pm to
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Yea. I'm truly an idiot while I back up everything I say countering things you say.

I thought LSU's style of football was to wear a team out and gash them in the 4th. That is what plenty of y'all said.

Though the one drive we gashed them was opened because of the passing attack; not by wearing them down.

FWIW I'm going back to the exact point in the game rewatching it before I post, and using the stats from the game to back me up.

I think a few of you are a little hyped up from the dramatic and awesome comeback. But at the same time are blinded by the fact we didn't play as great of a game as some of y'all seem to think.


Again, ignorant flawed post. I'll see if you can find the problem as people here tried to educate you... and still you prefer to "stay ignorant".
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7541 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:14 pm to
Typical Tigerdroppings poster. When you are clearly wrong you go to name calling and trash talk.

There is no flawed statement in my post.

LINK

Here is the entire LSU vs Wisconsin game. Maybe you should try rewatching it without the emotional high from the comeback. Make sure you reflect back upon all the things I've said and learn to understand I'm right.

It's okay. One day you will join the big boys at the football table and be able to talk.

Till then I hope you continue to support the purple and gold; as will I. You and all the other hard headed LSU fans bore me now. Time for me to go. Maybe one day you'll learn.

This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 8:15 pm
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