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re: I don't like the toss lead
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:18 am to Choupique19
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:18 am to Choupique19
quote:how is this a negative? Everything that you said in this statement is what makes it a great play to set up play action off of. Not a diss to you or anyone else, but unless you played linebacker or understand the reads the defense makes, you don't really understand how setting up the play action. Most schemes for linebackers are to read their guard to qb to running back. So the more and more that we run this, the more the linebackers are sucked in, the more we can run a play action pass or even a regular toss sweep off the same motion. As the game progresses, fatigue sets in, and it's where you see the difference between well coached kids and not so well coached. The mental discipline to continue to go through your reads gets a lot harder once your winded. Think Oregon. Nearly all of oregon plays in the chip kelly era were identical. Run at a high pace and gained effectiveness once fatigue sets in. My coach always taught us that "your eyes will trick you"
The negative of the play is the chance of play action. When backers/safeties see the toss they are a step quicker to the line of scrimmage to stop the run.
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:26 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:Well, if we dont run it in the games then how is it going to keep the defense from immediately reacting to the run? It does us no good if it just sits in the playbook unused.
Just because it's never been run in a game doesn't mean it's not in the playbook.
quote:You admittedly said LSU does not utilize the Play action fake off of this run play.
how is this a negative? Everything that you said in this statement is what makes it a great play to set up play action off of.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:27 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:43 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:
how is this a negative? Everything that you said in this statement is what makes it a great play to set up play action off of. Not a diss to you or anyone else, but unless you played linebacker or understand the reads the defense makes, you don't really understand how setting up the play action.
Once the qb tosses the ball, there is no chance at play action. When handing the ball off, the qb will take a few steps to the running back with his back to the line of scrimmage. Safeties still have to stay deep in case of a play action pass. On the toss lead, the ball is out of the qb's hands quickly and the backers and safeties can run down hill to the ball. While I admit that linebackers are reading the down lineman to the ball, the safeties flying down hill can help to stuff the play for minimal gain.
If we are honest, I think we all can admit that for every big play that Jeremy Hill burst through the defense on this play, we had two or three efforts stuffed near the line of scrimmage.
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