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re: Evangelicals in Republican Party are feeling left out, see no standard-bearer

Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:05 am to
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:05 am to
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I get what you are saying, however this sect of Christian vote is not what the party needs. They have abandoned the idea of small government to combat the thing you are describing. In order to try and keep the party "right", they have gone "left" to the use of big gov't.


Uhm, no. I am a small government conservative. The fact that I take issue with moral or social issues does not mean I advocate larger government. It means I advocate government that promotes moral behavior, a key facet of good governance. That which contributes to the common good of society. You can disagree with how I define morality, but you cannot reframe the argument to say that I am in favor of larger government.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:55 am to
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Uhm, no. I am a small government conservative. The fact that I take issue with moral or social issues does not mean I advocate larger government. It means I advocate government that promotes moral behavior, a key facet of good governance. That which contributes to the common good of society. You can disagree with how I define morality, but you cannot reframe the argument to say that I am in favor of larger government.



This. What the millennials don't understand is that they are viewing things from just their history. Their time on earth. They are a very small part of the voters.

Data from the General Social Surveys (GSS), which have been conducted regularly since 1972, confirm that young adults are not just more unaffiliated than their elders today but are also more unaffiliated than young people have been in recent decades. In GSS surveys conducted since 2000, nearly one-quarter of people ages 18-29 have described their religion as “none.” By comparison, only about half as many young adults were unaffiliated in the 1970s and 1980s.

This isn't hard to grasp.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
35013 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:03 pm to
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Uhm, no. I am a small government conservative




I wasn't talking to you or about you in particular.

To my point, there is nothing small government about wanting to use the federal government to dictate who can get married (just using this as an example). You can want a candidate who stands for the same principles you do, but once they try and use their power to make sure everyone complies with your morality on such issues, you are no longer supporting a small government. You are granting them more power, which only escalates the issue.

I want Rand Paul to win the nomination for this very reason. He understands this principle. You can still promote these ideals without having to use your power to make sure others follow them.

This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 2:12 pm
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