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re: Metts stats for the game

Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:16 am to
Posted by TheShwenz
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2008
1381 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:16 am to
Outside of Wilson, what do all of those guys have in common? 0 Superbowls. And Wilson is a good QB, but his stats are hardly elite. His superbowl is more attributable to a great defense and run game. I might be slightly off, but I think something like 11 of the last 12 (excluding Wilson) superbowl winning QBs are:

Brees (1)
Roethlisberger (2)
Eli (2)
Peyton (1) -- (Also 5 time MVP and least mobile QB ever)
Rodgers (1)
Brady (3)
Flacco (1)

Brees, Rodgers, and Roethlisberger are decently mobile, but that's by and large a list of pocket passers. At the very least you can go back and check the stats and I guarantee most of them average less than 10 yards rushing a game. And the list goes further than that, but just keeping this to the 2000s. Mobility is nice, but the speed of the NFL almost dictates against it more than it requires it IMO. The scrambles you can get away with in college get stopped for losses or no gains in the NFL. And it gets you hurt. A lot of these guys are quick to tuck and run without going through their reads. I agree that I'd like my QB to have the threat to run, but the point is being a pure pocket passer is still the bread and butter of the NFL.

Peyton is the least mobile QB you'll ever see and all he has done is be MVP more than anybody in the NFL and set multiple QB passing records.

Nobody is suggesting that Mettenberger is on the level of Manning, Brady, etc., but to say his lack of mobility means he cannot be successful in the NFL is an idiotic statement. And while he has some room for improvement in moving around in the pocket, he's barely played one game's worth of snaps in the NFL. Give him time. He made MAJOR strides in pocket movement from his 1st year to his 2nd year at LSU.
Posted by tigerswin03
SAINTS / PELICANS FAN
Member since Jan 2009
4715 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:24 am to
exactly that's why you don't see any teams running the read option or that wildcat it just doesn't work over time in the nfl ...

rg3 learned the hard way last year and now all you hear is that they are preaching to him to learn how to slide ....
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9125 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 7:55 am to
Not saying you are saying this but just making a point, you do not need to be Mobil in the since of taking off gaining 15 yards a carry or bring a threat to run, but you have to be Mobil in the pocket making people miss with subtle moves while keeping awareness down the field, that's all you need. He needs to get better at this but has shown that he is getting better so he def can be a very good QB. His knee will be his problem, if someone hits that knee again it could end his career. HOF QB prob not but could he win lots of games and mayb a Super Bowl absolutely, if he had the right players around him and a good D.
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