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re: Did Obama call for a cease fire when Hamas was shelling Israel?
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:13 am to ChewyDante
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:13 am to ChewyDante
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We don't have to simplify complex issues just to placate our own agendas.
My only agenda is to live peacefully with each other.
The Palestinians probably do have legitimate gripe about losing their land when Israel was formed in '48 (admittedly I do not know much about the details of the formation of the Jewish state in terms of the deals brokered). But the time since those apparent injustices have passed.
Maybe instead of violent means the Palestinians can gain some type of retribution through international diplomatic means? But we know that won't happen because their ultimate goal is the eradication of the Jews. They've hated the Jews way before the state of Israel was formed in '48.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:22 am to GumboPot
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They've hated the Jews way before the state of Israel was formed in '48.
It appears their goal is to rid the world of the Jews, then the Christians, then the athiests.
"They came after the Jews. I didn't complain because I wasn't a Jew...."
Posted on 7/22/14 at 9:31 am to GumboPot
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Maybe instead of violent means the Palestinians can gain some type of retribution through international diplomatic means? But we know that won't happen because their ultimate goal is the eradication of the Jews. They've hated the Jews way before the state of Israel was formed in '48.
You are presuming the Israelis, the power actor, will voluntarily make concessions that satisfy the Palestinians interests yet may conflict with their own. Highly unlikely as the Israelis have displayed aggressive territorial ambitions in expanding settlements and displacing Palestinians. There is a religious component to all this, of course, that adds immense complication to any diplomatic resolution. And the radical Israelis certainly contribute to that as well.
And again, I think you are relying on immense oversimplification and propaganda by arguing that the Palestinians are only motivated by a desire to "eradicate the Jews."
Prior to 1948, what atrocities were being habitually committed against the Jews by Arabs in Palestine, or even elsewhere? A lot of this conflict stems from the British and French colonial rule of these areas following the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the subsequent mass immigration of European Jews into the Palestinian mandate while under British control. Zionism and British treachery, in regard to permitting Arab self-governance, following the First World War are essential factors in creating this conflict. While Islam is certainly a religion apt for extremism, ethnocentrism and ethnic/religious supremacy is a strain within Judaism as well.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 10:06 am
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