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re: Arsenal 2014/15 Season Long Thread
Posted on 4/27/15 at 9:42 am to RandySavage
Posted on 4/27/15 at 9:42 am to RandySavage
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I'm sure you can, it was an obvious foul.
Agree to disagree. It was hardly obvious. It looked like Fabregas was looking for contact, from the way he swandove like he was expecting contact. LINK
It was right in front of the referee and it was frankly embarrassing. It wasn't a foul outside the box nor in it. The fact that there were no protestations from Cesc should immediately tell you he was trying to pull a fast one on the ref. He even smiled wryly at Santi after the incident. Given your views on diving I'm honestly surprised you are taking this position.
The first Oscar incident wasn't a foul either. LINK
First it looks like a dive because the contact was incidental and caused Oscar to trip over himself. Not a foul.
The only clear cut foul and penalty was the Oscar/Ospina one. None of the handballs. The yellows Ivanovic and Coquelin earned were doing the same exact thing, trying to impose physicality on the opposition's best player, a tactic I'm surprised anyone actually has a problem with, as it worked for both teams. Hazard was quiet and Sanchez kept going down expecting fouls just by mere contact after Ivanovic's first hard tackle, which was ridiculous.
Even then both teams should have done better from the chances they created. Ramires did poorly when he was through from Willian, and Ozil, Mertesacker, and Sanchez (numerous times) scuffed goalmouth opportunities, which you just can't do.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 9:55 am to crazy4lsu
Outside of the late chance for Ozil, I thought Santi blew the best chance.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:31 am to crazy4lsu
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The only clear cut foul and penalty was the Oscar/Ospina one
Oh yeah, Opsina knocked the frick out of him. What's the rule on advantage for that? I want to say you can't play advantage for the shot and call the penalty once the shot is saved/misses. It's either a penalty, or advantage played, not both. But I may be misinterpreting that.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:02 am to crazy4lsu
The Fabregas one was a foul no question about it. Yes he was looking for contact and yes he went down easy but it doesn't change the fact Santi obliged him by sticking his leg out wrecklessly. I'm fine with it not being called a penalty because of my view on penalties but more times than not it is given and outside the box it's a foul everytime.
Oscar's may not have been a foul and I've said multiple times it shouldn't be a pen but it's not a dive when contact, incidental or not, causes you to fall down.
Agreed, which is why it was surprising to read here that some people thought Ivanovic should be sent off.
Anyway good post overall.
Oscar's may not have been a foul and I've said multiple times it shouldn't be a pen but it's not a dive when contact, incidental or not, causes you to fall down.
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The yellows Ivanovic and Coquelin earned were doing the same exact thing, trying to impose physicality on the opposition's best player, a tactic I'm surprised anyone actually has a problem with,
Agreed, which is why it was surprising to read here that some people thought Ivanovic should be sent off.
Anyway good post overall.
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