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No one is coming to take your guns: States thinking of passing gun seizure laws

Posted on 7/6/14 at 8:38 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 8:38 pm
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As state officials across the country grapple with how to prevent mass killings like the ones at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown and near the University of California, Santa Barbara, some are turning to a gun seizure law pioneered in Connecticut 15 years ago.

Connecticut's law allows judges to order guns temporarily seized after police present evidence that a person is a danger to themselves or others. A court hearing must be held within 14 days to determine whether to return the guns or authorize the state to hold them for up to a year.



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California and New Jersey lawmakers are now considering similar statutes, both proposed in the wake of the killings of six people and wounding of 13 others near the University of California, Santa Barbara by a mentally ill man who had posted threatening videos on YouTube.


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Rachel Baird, a Connecticut lawyer who has represented many gun owners, said one of the biggest problems with the state's law is that police are abusing it. She said she has had eight clients whose guns were seized by police who obtained the required warrants after taking possession of the guns.

"It's stretched and abused, and since it's firearms, the courts go along with it," Baird said of the law.


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Connecticut authorities report a large increase in the use of gun seizure warrants involving people deemed dangerous by police over the past several years. Officials aren't exactly sure what caused the increase but believe it's related to numerous highly publicized mass shootings in recent years.


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Police statewide filed an estimated 183 executed gun seizure warrants with court clerks last year, more than twice the number filed in 2010, according to Connecticut Judicial Branch data. Last year's total also was nearly nine times higher than the annual average in the first five years of the gun seizure law.

Connecticut police have seized more than 2,000 guns using the warrants, according to the most recent estimate by state officials, in 2009.


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"With all that we see in the news day after day, particular after Newtown, I think departments are more aware of what authority they have ... and they're using the tool (gun seizure warrants) more frequently than in the past," said South Windsor Police Chief Matthew Reed. "We always look at it from the other side. What if we don't seize the guns?'



CT was once the gun capitol of the US
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 8:39 pm
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37205 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 8:43 pm to
If you think this wasn't a huge reason for government takeover of health care, you aren't paying attention. Government has health records for everyone, passes 'common sense' background checks for mental illness...bam. Anyone that's ever had a virus can't buy a gun.

Not directing this at you weagle.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135734 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 8:47 pm to
I'm very pro 2A and I'll probably catch a lot of hell over this, but I don't see too much harm in something like this if there is very credible and sufficient evidence that the person is very clearly mentally disturbed.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 8:57 pm to
I guarantee you that will never happen in LA or TX.

You will see 70 year old men getting shot on their front porches by federal agents. They are out-armed here.

I can see it on the left coast and the northeast, however. But let them keep putting these people in power.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:45 pm to
Just in case you guys were wondering how important the 2016 Presidential election happens to be, when the next President is sworn in, 3 Supreme Court justices will be in their 80s and another will be 79.

A two term President taking office in 2016 will likely replace almost half of SCOTUS.

The 2nd Amendment is dead if a Democrat fills those vacancies.




Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9437 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 10:17 pm to
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Connecticut's law allows judges to order guns temporarily seized after police present evidence that a person is a danger to themselves or others. A court hearing must be held within 14 days to determine whether to return the guns or authorize the state to hold them for up to a year.


Seems like a fairly reasonable approach to dealing with the problem we have. Reasonable people could look at that and find common ground.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 10:30 pm to
What has the world come to? If I wanna go crazy and shoot up a bunch of a people that's my right. Shall NOT be infringed upon!
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65999 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:01 pm to
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California and New Jersey lawmakers are now considering similar statutes, both proposed in the wake of the killings of six people and wounding of 13 others near the University of California, Santa Barbara by a mentally ill man who had posted threatening videos on YouTube.


Didn't he kill just as many with a life as he did with a gun? If that's the case why are they going after guns and not knives?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:03 pm to
You know if you like guns so much you can always join the military. They have a lot of guns and will give you one.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 12:42 am to
I remember the patriot act

We're only spying on terrorist...scout's honor
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10149 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:05 am to
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11545 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:42 pm to
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As state officials across the country grapple with how to prevent mass killings like the ones at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown and near the University of California, Santa Barbara


I love this. How many were killed in our cities worst neighborhoods this weekend? Massive amounts. They always try and use these school shootings because they would get no where if they blamed poor minorities for violent crime in this country.
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