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re: The people of Britain are freaking out about a 10 pound charge to visit doctor

Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
85501 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:11 pm to
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and what would you propose, as a system, if you could change it all?



I would go back to the old system, with one caveat. I would devise a system, doesn't have to be via government, but some system, which can control the price gouging for services. Go look at what a hip replacement costs here vs. other developed countries.

The right will tell you that the cost is higher here because of lawsuits, but this is nonsense. Texas has had tort reform for years and health care costs have continued to rise.

The fact of the matter is that when you're sick, you're in no position to act as a consumer the way you were if you needed a new TV or a car. And furthermore the system is intentionally obscured from the patient so that nobody really knows how much everything is going to cost. Try asking your surgeon what it's going to run you, he probably doesn't know.

The system as a whole needs to be reformed, but i don't think government is the answer, in fact if we had smaller government in this particular field it would be more likely to be successful, as crony capitalism has and will continue to destroy the republic in the wake of Citizens United.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 4:13 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69951 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:19 pm to
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The fact of the matter is that when you're sick, you're in no position to act as a consumer
Depends on the severity of the sickness. If I have a simple flu, I have the ability to pick and choose. If I have a ruptured stomach or Ebola, I am not a consumer. That is what catastrophic insurance is for.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:43 pm to
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. Go look at what a hip replacement costs here vs. other developed countries.


Is this you caring or not caring about what happens in other countries? I can't tell.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11619 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 5:00 pm to
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The system as a whole needs to be reformed, but i don't think government is the answer, in fact if we had smaller government in this particular field it would be more likely to be successful, as crony capitalism has and will continue to destroy the republic in the wake of Citizens United.


Good post. It's amazing that you are such an Obamabot/apologist yet hold such a fundamental disagreement on the role of government. One is left wondering if youre a little touched in the head.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8607 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 5:24 pm to
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control the price

THAT'S THE PROBLEM, AMIGO.
ETA: Sorry for the all caps. But for real, I can provide literature that isn't the nonsensical pontification of ill-defined buzzwords that I'm sure you've gotten used to from the likes of Krugman and Chomsky. I'm getting sick of reading your non-Econ problem solving on here.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 5:31 pm to
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if we had smaller government in this particular field it would be more likely to be successful, as crony capitalism has and will continue to destroy the republic in the wake of Citizens United.


Smaller gov't will always destroy crony capitalism. That's really not up for debate.
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