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Young Earth Creationism and Public Schools...
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:50 pm
How is this still a thing, even in private schools?
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:53 pm to FT
Are you referring to religious schools teaching religion?
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:54 pm to FT
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How is this still a thing, even in private schools?
I've never seen it. I went to a private Catholic school and we were taught nothing of the sort.
I've never even heard of a school that teaches it.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:57 pm to FT
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Young Earth Creationism and Public Schools...
Do not and should not mix. If its happening anywhere, it needs to be shut down post haste.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:57 pm to FT
FT is scouring the internet for a school that teaches young earth creationism
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:58 pm to Scruffy
They exist, but they aren't prevalent.
What the OP is referring to, I'm assuming, is the teaching of intelligent design.
What the OP is referring to, I'm assuming, is the teaching of intelligent design.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:59 pm to FT
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Public Schools
Government schools should not exist.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
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What the OP is referring to, I'm assuming, is the teaching of intelligent design.
Intelligent Design and Young Earth Creationism are not the same thing Roger. Shut the frick up, Now.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:That is an entirely different thing than young Earth creationism.
What the OP is referring to, I'm assuming, is the teaching of intelligent design.
I was taught intelligent design in Catholic school, but that is pretty much the basis of the entire religion.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:02 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Intelligent Design and Young Earth Creationism are not the same thing Roger.
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That is an entirely different thing than young Earth creationism
YEC is a subset of ID. You can believe in ID without being a YEC, but you cannot be a YEC apart from ID.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
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YEC is a subset of ID. You can believe in ID without being a YEC, but you cannot be a YEC apart from ID.
Stop splitting hairs, knock it off.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:06 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Yea, but you went from the very specific to the very broad based on nothing. If that was FT's true point, he'll rectify it, but don't make assumptions.
YEC is a subset of ID. You can believe in ID without being a YEC, but you cannot be a YEC apart from ID.
That would be like me making a comment about Bengal tigers and then someone stating, "oh, he was just talking about cats in general."
Doesn't work that way.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:12 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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FT is scouring the internet for a school that teaches young earth creationism
My private high school. Any homeschooled child that uses the Abeka program.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:13 pm to Scruffy
It's a common mistake, a lot of people incorrectly believe YEC and ID are equivalent. In part it's due to the fact that YEC are often the loudest and most outspoken of the IDers
TBH, on some level YEC is a little more respectable. Its at least a strong conviction supported by the source material. ID as a whole is a wishy-washy, "hold onto my faith but not too much" type of belief. Yes the old earth IDer is more scientifically rational but it's essentially a modern reactionary belief. It's basically slipping God in through the backdoor where he simply isn't needed anymore.
If you genuinely believe the Bible is true and everything else is human error, then you can believe in ID without any sort of cognitive dissonance. Other types of IDers have lots and lots of holes to fill.
TBH, on some level YEC is a little more respectable. Its at least a strong conviction supported by the source material. ID as a whole is a wishy-washy, "hold onto my faith but not too much" type of belief. Yes the old earth IDer is more scientifically rational but it's essentially a modern reactionary belief. It's basically slipping God in through the backdoor where he simply isn't needed anymore.
If you genuinely believe the Bible is true and everything else is human error, then you can believe in ID without any sort of cognitive dissonance. Other types of IDers have lots and lots of holes to fill.
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:14 pm to FT
quote:You were taught YEC? As in, the universe is only 5700 to 10,000 years old?!
My private high school. Any homeschooled child that uses the Abeka program.
Where the hell did you go to school?
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:19 pm to FT
This is sort of a problem for me. I have a really huge issue with parenting. You don't own your children and you can't just teach them anything. That's tantamount to child abuse. I know that sounds extreme, but at what point is a child being taught and at what point is he being indoctrinated?
The more frequently I hear about awful parents, the more certain I am that we should have some kind of public school system.
It's a bizarre place to be. Freedom is sort of incredibly important; it's essential to a truly human life. It also can allow for incredible cruelty and subjugation without ever truly breaking a moral law.
Anyway, let's step away from that. I went to a school that taught this sort of nonsense, and it created more atheists than not. It's not effective.
The more frequently I hear about awful parents, the more certain I am that we should have some kind of public school system.
It's a bizarre place to be. Freedom is sort of incredibly important; it's essential to a truly human life. It also can allow for incredible cruelty and subjugation without ever truly breaking a moral law.
Anyway, let's step away from that. I went to a school that taught this sort of nonsense, and it created more atheists than not. It's not effective.
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