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Top 10 coaches in soccer
Posted on 7/4/14 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 7/4/14 at 4:33 pm
I know nothing about soccer so give me your top 10 coaches (of national teams) in the world.
Go!
Go!
Posted on 7/4/14 at 5:05 pm to crazyLSUfan
Diego Maradona
Eric Wynalda
Eric Wynalda
Posted on 7/4/14 at 5:12 pm to crazyLSUfan
I'll try to give a serious list. In no order and only counting active coaches...
Louis van Gaal
Felipe Scolari
Marcelo Bielsa
Carlo Ancellotti
Arsene Wenger
Joachim Low
Pep Guardiola
Jose Mourinho
Brendan Rogers
Jurgen Klopp
Louis van Gaal
Felipe Scolari
Marcelo Bielsa
Carlo Ancellotti
Arsene Wenger
Joachim Low
Pep Guardiola
Jose Mourinho
Brendan Rogers
Jurgen Klopp
Posted on 7/4/14 at 5:13 pm to Keys Open Doors
Drop Löw, add Thomas Tuchel
Posted on 7/4/14 at 5:18 pm to cigsmcgee
It's easier to make a list of club managers, so that's what mine is. This isn't a comprehensive list, but a few of the big names.
Pep Guardiola (Bayern Munich)
Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid)
Arsene Wenger (Arsenal)
Diego Simeone (Atletico Madrid)
Manuel Pellegrini (Manchester City)
Antonio Conte (Juventus)
Jose Mourinho (Chelsea)
Marcelo Bielsa (Marseille)
Jurgen Klopp (Borussia Dortmund)
Louis Van Gaal (Manchester United)
Pep Guardiola (Bayern Munich)
Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid)
Arsene Wenger (Arsenal)
Diego Simeone (Atletico Madrid)
Manuel Pellegrini (Manchester City)
Antonio Conte (Juventus)
Jose Mourinho (Chelsea)
Marcelo Bielsa (Marseille)
Jurgen Klopp (Borussia Dortmund)
Louis Van Gaal (Manchester United)
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 7/4/14 at 5:21 pm to NOTORlOUSD
Conte was the first guy off on my list.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:10 pm to Keys Open Doors
How does Klinsmann stack against the rest?
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:23 pm to crazyLSUfan
I'll answer this as fairly as possible. He has much less experience than the top 10 guys.
His first job was a success in everyone's eyes. His second job was not successful and lasted about 9 months. After he was fired, the guys who took up after him all did much better.
Since he is already very wealthy and doesn't need to apply for coaching jobs, he only showed interest in a handful of desirable jobs (all of which would pay quite well).
Therefore the US job was one of the only jobs he could feasibly land with his current resume, besides maybe Tottenham, since he isn't interested in 98 percent of the jobs on the market:
Even big name guys like Frank Rijkard, Cesare Prandelli, and Mancini were more flexible with their first post-firing job searches.
His first job was a success in everyone's eyes. His second job was not successful and lasted about 9 months. After he was fired, the guys who took up after him all did much better.
Since he is already very wealthy and doesn't need to apply for coaching jobs, he only showed interest in a handful of desirable jobs (all of which would pay quite well).
Therefore the US job was one of the only jobs he could feasibly land with his current resume, besides maybe Tottenham, since he isn't interested in 98 percent of the jobs on the market:
Even big name guys like Frank Rijkard, Cesare Prandelli, and Mancini were more flexible with their first post-firing job searches.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:24 pm to crazyLSUfan
quote:
How does Klinsmann stack against the rest?
It's hard to say in that I seriously doubt he was really a target for any of the 50? or so better jobs for both clubs and prestigious national teams for the past few years.
He managed Germany from 2004-06 and some give him a lot of credit for the revitalization of their youth ranks though the NT did get knocked out of the WC playing at home in the semis. He then managed Bayern Munich but was fired mid-season. That's it as far as managing resume.
For the purposes of the USMNT though I think he was a pretty good hire since his strength seems to be moving and shaking things off the field (youth programs/integration especially) more than being a tactical mastermind or gifted roster manager.
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:30 pm to wm72
I think 50 is a bit steep. He probably could have gotten most Bundesliga jobs outside of Bayern Munich, Dortmund, and maybe 2-3 others.
For the US job, the only bigger name than Klinsmann I saw was Bielsa, who is arguably the most intelligent man in coaching. I don't know how good of a fit he'd be for us though. I'm bit counting Pep as a serious candidate based on a couple of non-sequiturs.
For the US job, the only bigger name than Klinsmann I saw was Bielsa, who is arguably the most intelligent man in coaching. I don't know how good of a fit he'd be for us though. I'm bit counting Pep as a serious candidate based on a couple of non-sequiturs.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:38 pm to Keys Open Doors
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I think 50 is a bit steep. He probably could have gotten most Bundesliga jobs outside of Bayern Munich, Dortmund, and maybe 2-3 others.
When?
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:15 am to hendersonshands
Definitely now, as Galatasaray had him as a serious candidate and that is on par with a top 3-5 German club considering their last foreign coaches were post-Barca Rijkard and Prandelli, and Thomas Tuchel accepted the initial offer last week.
I bet he could have gotten one of those jobs (Schalke, Leverkusen, Hamburg-type jobs) before then, too. But he'd have to bring in a legitimate top assistant, not Martin Vasquez.
I bet he could have gotten one of those jobs (Schalke, Leverkusen, Hamburg-type jobs) before then, too. But he'd have to bring in a legitimate top assistant, not Martin Vasquez.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 12:16 am
Posted on 7/5/14 at 6:21 am to NOTORlOUSD
Pep Guardiola
Arsene Wenger
Jose Mourinho
Louis Van Gaal
Carlo Ancelloti
Vicente Del Bosque
Giovanni Trappatoni
Marcelo Lippi
Although Conte, Simeone, and Klopp are all moving up while Bosque, Trappatoni, and Lippi ... while still managing are on the way out.
I don't rate Scolari, Pellegrini, Biesla... well I don't rate them as highly as some... especially Biesla
Arsene Wenger
Jose Mourinho
Louis Van Gaal
Carlo Ancelloti
Vicente Del Bosque
Giovanni Trappatoni
Marcelo Lippi
Although Conte, Simeone, and Klopp are all moving up while Bosque, Trappatoni, and Lippi ... while still managing are on the way out.
I don't rate Scolari, Pellegrini, Biesla... well I don't rate them as highly as some... especially Biesla
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