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re: Does playing for multiple teams diminish a player's accomplishments?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:43 pm to Fearthehat0307
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:43 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:Did you use the mouse to click Submit or did you take the shortcut and use tab and enter to make that post.
diminish legacy? possibly, if the sole reason you abandon ship is because you not mentally tough enough to win without taking shortcuts
Choose wisely, your posting legacy rides on the answer!
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:45 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:
diminish legacy? possibly, if the sole reason you abandon ship is because you not mentally tough enough to win without taking shortcuts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:48 pm to shel311
quote:tab and enter seems like more work. I always use the touchpad
Did you use the mouse to click Submit or did you take the shortcut and use tab and enter to make that post.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:51 pm to motorbreath
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This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:52 pm to Feral
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Umm...
He was referring to George Brett.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:53 pm to TypoKnig
Realized that right after hitting enter when I saw they were all baseball players.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:54 pm to TypoKnig
Shaq was a ring chasing fool
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:55 pm to Feral
quote:so you edited it to say dp? Liar
Realized that right after hitting enter when I saw they were all baseball players.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:56 pm to shel311
I think there is something to be said for remaining loyal to a team and committing to the franchise and city through thick and thin - like Kobe, Duncan, Dirk, etc.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:58 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:Touchpad? That's wayyyyy too easy, too much of a shortcut!
tab and enter seems like more work. I always use the touchpad
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:59 pm to Ostrich
quote:There are lots to be said for it, you're right. It does show loyalty. It also shows whether or not that organization surround that player with sufficient talent. At some point, you have to decide what's more important, blind loyalty or trying to put yourself in the best possible position to win a title.
I think there is something to be said for remaining loyal to a team and committing to the franchise and city through thick and thin - like Kobe, Duncan, Dirk, etc
What it doesn't have anything to do with is how good that player is.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:02 pm to shel311
quote:i'm comfortable in my position as a mediocre to below average poster. I don't stare down slowflowpro if I make a great post or have a day with an incredible post count
Touchpad? That's wayyyyy too easy, too much of a shortcut!
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:03 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:I mean, who would?
I don't stare down slowflowpro if I make a great post or have a day with an incredible post count
He's the Wayne Gretzky of this establishment.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:04 pm to tduecen
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Jordan played for Bulls, wizards
Eh.. I don't think retiring off somewhere at the very end is the same thing as far as playing for multiple teams and their achievements/accomplishments..
Kinda like Joe Montana..
With all that said, I am not sure it matters.. but it's much nicer to see a guy do it for the majority of one franchise.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:08 pm to Ostrich
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I think there is something to be said for remaining loyal to a team and committing to the franchise and city through thick and thin - like Kobe, Duncan, Dirk, etc.
Kobe threatened a trade and Duncan was very close to signing with Orlando.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:14 pm to c on z
quote:Wasn't he on a radio show saying he wanted to be traded?
Kobe threatened a trade
I mean, you really get credit for loyalty when you're doing everything you can to leave but the organization refuses to trade you?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:47 pm to shel311
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Whether you play 15 seasons with 1 team or 15 seasons with 15 teams, you're still the same exact player, no better or worse.
This x1000. Furthermore a player has absolutely no control where he starts his career. Why should i think that a players "legacy" is tarnished because he left the team that drafted him because they had absolutely no intention of getting him any real help to win a championship? I actually respect a player more for leaving a team that is not committed to winning than one that leaves for more money.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:59 pm to Wolf
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I actually respect a player more for leaving a team that is not committed to winning than one that leaves for more money.
Whoaaaa, this is the MSB. Leave the logic at home my friend.
To answer the OP, no, it shouldn't, but that doesn't stop people. It is all subjective. People will use whatever method they need to diminish one player versus another, and they will change the argument whenever neccessary to protect the GOAT in their minds.
Rings are the end-all, be-all in the Jordan vs. LeBron debate, but they aren't neccessary in the Jordan vs. Russell debate. Go figure.
People have been laying the ground work to diminish Tiger Woods for years since it seemed apparent that Tiger would catch and surpass Nicklaus. If Tiger catches Nicklaus, they will diminish him by pointing to Nicklaus' 2nd and 3rd place finishes in majors, or they will make some unfounded comment about the quality of players that each had to face.
Bottom line is that players were better when I was younger than they are today, and I'll do or say whatever is neccessary to preserve my youth. Plain and simple.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:06 pm to TypoKnig
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Does playing for multiple teams diminish a player's accomplishments
When it fits someone's agenda for bashing a player they didn't like in the first place, sure.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:57 pm to Ostrich
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I think there is something to be said for remaining loyal to a team and committing to the franchise and city through thick and thin - like Kobe, Duncan, Dirk, etc.
A big supporter of staying loyal to a team and city. But what we often don't think about is that team being loyal back.
If a team isn't making a solid effort to improve, or if they just make bad decisions even, the player may have to leave.
It's like a marriage, if one side is loyal, but the other is not then it won't work out.
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