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re: LSU vs UM 2018 (Making progress)

Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:28 am to
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:28 am to
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LSU athletics goes above and beyond what should be expected of them. They are the only athletic department in the country that operates financially independently and gives back so much to the university.


This is untrue. Texas AD gives more back to the university and takes no public funds. Also, there are a few schools who take money from the University for accounting purposes only.

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The Louisiana government and constitution continuously frick over the university. The athletic department owes them nothing.


Except their entire existence. LSU's athletic department employees are public employees. Les Miles salary has to be reported because he, again, is a public employee. The LSU chancellor, another public official and the head of the university is the boss of everyone in the athletic department.

I will state this again: without the state sponsored university, LSU athletics would not exist.

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Let's also not forget the importance of lsu to the state's economy.


Thanks for repeating my exact point. The AD itself trumpets who much of an effect LSU athletics has on the state and local economies. Which is precisely why we shouldn't play a neutral site game every year outside of the state.

Disagree with my points all you want, but they are extremely valid and the fact that the AD gives back to the University changes none of them. Also, the fact that our state is run by idiot lawmakers are constantly cutting the budgets of higher ed in this state does not somehow remove the athletic department from it's responsibility to the state.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 9:39 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:43 am to
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This is untrue and saying that we're the only AD that operates financially independently of the university is arguing semantics. There's a decent number of schools who take money from the University for accounting purposes only.



I never said that LSU was the only AD that operates financially independent of the university. That AND means something.

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LSU's athletic department employees are public officials. Les Miles salary has to be reported because he, again, is a public official.


Good to know that he's coaching for such a bargain at $300,000.

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I will state this again: without the state sponsored university, LSU athletics would not exist.



And that does not make LSU athletics a slave to the state. The AD has gone above and beyond the call of duty.

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Disagree with my points all you want, but they are extremely valid and the fact that the AD gives back to the University changes none of them. Also, the fact that our state is run by idiot lawmakers are constantly cutting the budgets of higher ed in this state does not somehow remove the athletic department from it's responsibility to the state.



I have no problem with your points. Disregarding the accomplishments as a moot point is absolutely ridiculous.

The AD obviously sees the neutral site games as beneficial, possibly bringing in students from out of state.

Giving $36 million back is goes well beyond that responsibility. If the state supported the university, maybe we could afford to pay a good program to come here.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 9:55 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:48 pm to
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This is untrue. Texas AD gives more back to the university and takes no public funds. Also, there are a few schools who take money from the University for accounting purposes only.



Do you have a link of them giving back more to the university?

Found it, they give $1.5 back to the university annually. Also, Texas receives money from student fees or did until very recently. LSU and Nebraska were the only 2 schools that didn't
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 4:12 pm
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