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Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Sorry, but that's just stupid. Vendors don't even sell XP machines any more. Machines that run it are generally OLD.


Go back and read my edit. Most IT shops are loathe to run a mixed environment so when they make the decision to swap users over, they do so with the quickness. With ~90k employees they could transition out a computer for something NICE ($2k, which is/should be about 2x what they need to for a good desktop) for every employee for about $180 mill (which is just a small portion of their +1.8B annual IT budget).

With all that said, I would be shocked if they weren't buying new machines and just putting XP on them (because they apparently aren't spending their IT money on backups, amirite?)
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:56 pm to
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With all that said, I would be shocked if they weren't buying new machines and just putting XP on them (because they apparently aren't spending their IT money on backups, amirite?)


As I posted, this is what my company is doing. We were going to go with 8, but when the company heard all the complaints, they decided to wait and we still have XP. I was talking with one of our IT guys last week, and he told me that we should start getting new machines with 8.1 in the near future. But, everyone (about 1,800 employees) will make the switch.

Now, given that Lois Lerner was the HEAD of the Exempt Organizations division -- a pretty high-up post -- do you think that she was working on an "old" machine, or is it more likely that she was always the first one to get the "newest and bestest" model when it rolled off the assembly line?
Posted by wfeliciana
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 3:59 pm to
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Go back and read my edit. Most IT shops are loathe to run a mixed environment so when they make the decision to swap users over, they do so with the quickness. With ~90k employees they could transition out a computer for something NICE ($2k, which is/should be about 2x what they need to for a good desktop) for every employee for about $180 mill (which is just a small portion of their +1.8B annual IT budget).

With all that said, I would be shocked if they weren't buying new machines and just putting XP on them (because they apparently aren't spending their IT money on backups, amirite?)


I hear you Bard, but again here is my experience. You are buying off a government contract and as usual you can buy a computer on open market cheaper. SO the $2000 may be low. I had that conversation many times when I was a Fed. I could walk into Best Buy and purchase a more powerful machine for half the cost. Also, budgets don't allow for new machines to be purchased for everyone every year or even very 3 years.

What I'm trying to say in all these posts of mine is this: It all looks suspicious and there may be wrongdoing, but what many of you are latching onto as proof and or indications may not be so and can be explained. Huge federal agencies, their business practices and budget implementations can't be compare to private companies (and that may be unfortunate).
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