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re: Apt Complex Requires Tenant To Remove US Flag - "Threat to Muslim Community"
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:35 am to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:35 am to SpidermanTUba
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Any large apartment complex I've ever lived in has already had extremely restrictive terms on what can be displayed outside the apartment (like nothing, really). They want the complex to look like they want it to look.
and if this complex is the same then Tran is in the wrong. it's not that complicated
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:36 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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What a stupid thing to get upset about. I couldn't mount a satellite dish to my balcony when I was renting in college and I didn't cry to the media about it.
If it had been a flag people would have listened.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:36 am to SpidermanTUba
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Most leases restrict what the tenant can display outside. For example, in the lease we have with our tenants, we have the clause:
You don't think the statement to the media would have outlined such a clause in the lease if it actually existed? Seems like that would have made this a non-story.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:37 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:37 am to dante
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why is someone in America if they feel threatened by the American flag?
It didn't happen - this is an invented story by the angry Tran.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:37 am to GRTiger
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Renters have rights
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:37 am to Mike da Tigah
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Perhaps that is a better one, but my issue is more along the perception that our flag would be seen as a threat.
It's a false statement made by Tran so why would that even be a question?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:39 am to imjustafatkid
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He didn't use a flag mount or I could see your point. Some of you folks are really grasping at straws here.
Tran is the only one grasping at straws as he made up the story because he wanted to keep his flag on display in spite of the Apt rules.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:41 am to SpidermanTUba
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Not everywhere (i.e. Louisiana)
What does that mean? Do not Louisiana complexes all fall under the same fair housing guidelines as everywhere else?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:42 am to PuntBamaPunt
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LINK
They posted it on their Facebook page.
I must have missed this post. If this is the case then Mr. Tran is silly.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:43 am to Mike da Tigah
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Stars and Stripes Misunderstanding
June 19, 2014
We understand that the recent events surrounding the display of the United States Flag on the balcony railing has caused a great deal of consternation. We regret that the policies, consistent with the hotel and apartment industry, have created an incorrect perception that we are not supportive of patriotism.
Residents are allowed to display flags inside their balconies. However, tarps, tents, flags, towels or clothing are not permitted on or over the railing of balconies and patios in order to maintain an aesthetically consistent image.
We are committed to providing a safe, comfortable and pleasant living environment to our residents through service, attention to detail and exacting expectations. Our goal is to deliver a positive living experience for all of our residents and regret the misunderstanding.
We apologize for anything that may have been communicated regarding the policy that was offensive to Mr. Tran at The Lodge on El Dorado in Webster, Texas. We admire our resident’s patriotism and proudly display our Country’s flag at the entrance to our community.
LINK
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ETA: This is in Houston, Texas. Seriously.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:44 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:44 am to SpidermanTUba
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Not everywhere (i.e. Louisiana)
If this is your belief you should hope you never find out otherwise.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:44 am to imjustafatkid
It all goes back to the language in the lease. If in the lease, the manager has the right to demand he take down the flag, then the manager has every right to do so. If not, then the tenant has every right to display the flag. Since I do not know the details, for hypothetical's sake, I'm going to assume that the manager has this right. While, I know he is allowed to, I don't think he should. I would not want a law to prevent the business owner from having such a policy.
Aka the "just because I don't like something doesn't mean it should be banned" policy. Freedom means people having the freedom to do things that I abhor and detest while I have the freedom to do the same.
Aka the "just because I don't like something doesn't mean it should be banned" policy. Freedom means people having the freedom to do things that I abhor and detest while I have the freedom to do the same.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:44 am to cwill
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cwill
frick man, we get it. You think he is lying. It's not a bad guess, but you went from suspicious to absolutely certain in about 3 minutes.
If the manager is a Muslim, I could see him/her saying something stupid like "As a Muslim and former Iranian citizen, this offends me" and he repeated it the way he did.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:45 am to imjustafatkid
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You don't think the statement to the media would have outlined such a clause in the lease if it actually existed?
No. Both landlords and tenants typically have no clue what they signed.
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Seems like that would have made this a non-story.
How? Its a guy telling someone not to display a U.S. flag to keep from offending some Mulsims. Right wing moonbats would eat that up no matter what the circumstances.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:45 am to kingbob
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I would not want a law to prevent the business owner from having such a policy.
Doesn't mean I don't have the right to talk about such awful policies.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:46 am to SpidermanTUba
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Right wing moonbats would eat that up no matter what the circumstances.
I would say you lose all credibility with statements like this but you don't have any anyway so I guess this is just par for the course with you.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:47 am to imjustafatkid
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I would not want a law to prevent the business owner from having such a policy.
Doesn't mean I don't have the right to talk about such awful policies.
Of course you have the right to voice your opinion. You also have the right to not sign a lease with a complex that has such a policy and sign a lease with a competing complex who's policies are more to your liking.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:47 am to GRTiger
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frick man, we get it. You think he is lying. It's not a bad guess, but you went from suspicious to absolutely certain in about 3 minutes.
If the manager is a Muslim, I could see him/her saying something stupid like "As a Muslim and former Iranian citizen, this offends me" and he repeated it the way he did.
See, that's my thing. It could perhaps be an issue between what he was told by someone in the office, not even the manager, but a leasing agent even, and what the official written response was from the management company. But then again, it could also be that Tran pulled all of this out of his arse. We don't know.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:48 am to SpidermanTUba
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For example, in the lease we have with our tenants, we have the clause:
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36. UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA RULE The tenant agrees to not display flags, banners, pennants, signs, colors, logos, marks, badges, images, figures, symbols, emblem, foam fingers, or mottos of or indicating support of the University of Alabama football team in any manner visible to any person standing outside the Premises.
Seems like discrimination to me.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:49 am to cwill
So the tenant was whoring for some media attention? Shocker.
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