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re: Jindal wants Louisiana out of Common Core
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:04 pm to lsugrldej8
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:04 pm to lsugrldej8
I think you make a valid point. HOWEVER, if you have something that everyone thinks will dramatically improve education, then you want everyone to take advantage of it as soon as possible.
Doing a 13 year implentation (i.e. starting in K and adding a grade per year) basically relegates the first graders in the first year to 12 years of lower standards, etc.
I think the best way was what they did - implement it for everyone, know that the score are going to take a hit, and focus everything you can on catch up. This is also why some of the high-stakes were removed in the first couple of years.
Doing a 13 year implentation (i.e. starting in K and adding a grade per year) basically relegates the first graders in the first year to 12 years of lower standards, etc.
I think the best way was what they did - implement it for everyone, know that the score are going to take a hit, and focus everything you can on catch up. This is also why some of the high-stakes were removed in the first couple of years.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:04 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:06 pm to Choctaw
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Race to the Top is bribery
Which means, it's optional.
Which means... IT'S NOT FEDERAL CONTROLLED.
It can't go both ways. Either it's federal controlled, or, it's optional.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Which means, it's optional.
Which means... IT'S NOT FEDERAL CONTROLLED.
It can't go both ways. Either it's federal controlled, or, it's optional.
don't be so naive
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:08 pm to Choctaw
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Choctaw
You've linked two far-right wing websites.
Please stop, you are embarrasing yourself.
And for what it's worth... common core is a set of standards. Any issues you have with those sample problems need to be taken up with the textbook company and/or the curriculum writer for your school district.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:09 pm to Choctaw
That post doesn't help you at all. Those questions require kids to improvise and try to make use of the tools they have available, especially the crayon one.
You guys would prefer no change and continued education results rather than move on to a higher plane of thinking. And kids will suffer greatly for it.
You guys would prefer no change and continued education results rather than move on to a higher plane of thinking. And kids will suffer greatly for it.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:09 pm to CollegeFBRules
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a higher plane of thinking
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:09 pm to CollegeFBRules
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Common Core is all about application and logic skills
That's the problem... too many TD posters don't have any logic skills, so to expect them to understand Common Core is asking too much!
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:10 pm to Choctaw
He's selling out Louisiana's children for the sake of his naked political ambitions. He's a disgusting POS.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:10 pm to Choctaw
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don't be so naive
You truly are a fool.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:10 pm to Asgard Device
quote:He is just building his cred with the right wing base.
He was part of the group that created it. He also appointed a staunch common core supporter to run the dept of education.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:12 pm to LSUFanHouston
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That's the problem... too many TD posters don't have any logic skills, so to expect them to understand Common Core is asking too much!
These posters are the ones convincing governors to back away from the best education initiative this country has seen in decades.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:15 pm to Choctaw
I agree with this conservative commentator about this issue.
LINK /
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And there is emotive opposition: Those who hate the testing regimens necessary to make performance standards work, most of them on the grounds that their own children are so special that they shouldn’t have to suffer such burdens. These last have influence.
Public education’s problems are legion, but few are more corrosive to student accomplishment — and to public confidence — than grade inflation. That was Duncan’s point.
For example: Former New York state Education Commissioner Richard Mills and the willful destruction of one of the nation’s strongest, and most trusted, performance benchmarks — the state Regent’s examinations.
A generation ago, nobody got an academic high-school diploma in New York without demonstrating — via the Regent’s tests — competence in a variety of subjects.
Then came Mills, and the decline began.
The goal: Improve graduation rates.
The means: Dumbing down the Regents’ tests.
Soon a lot more students were getting diplomas, but they were near to worthless; in New York City, a scant 31.4 percent of high-school grads in 2013 were ready for college work.
And then came Common Core, and the end of illusions:
In New York in 2013 — the first year of the program’s more rigorous new benchmarks — reading, writing and arithmetic scores dropped an eye-popping 30 percentage points from 2012. What to do? Kill the messenger, of course.
LINK /
LINK /
And there is emotive opposition: Those who hate the testing regimens necessary to make performance standards work, most of them on the grounds that their own children are so special that they shouldn’t have to suffer such burdens. These last have influence.
Public education’s problems are legion, but few are more corrosive to student accomplishment — and to public confidence — than grade inflation. That was Duncan’s point.
For example: Former New York state Education Commissioner Richard Mills and the willful destruction of one of the nation’s strongest, and most trusted, performance benchmarks — the state Regent’s examinations.
A generation ago, nobody got an academic high-school diploma in New York without demonstrating — via the Regent’s tests — competence in a variety of subjects.
Then came Mills, and the decline began.
The goal: Improve graduation rates.
The means: Dumbing down the Regents’ tests.
Soon a lot more students were getting diplomas, but they were near to worthless; in New York City, a scant 31.4 percent of high-school grads in 2013 were ready for college work.
And then came Common Core, and the end of illusions:
In New York in 2013 — the first year of the program’s more rigorous new benchmarks — reading, writing and arithmetic scores dropped an eye-popping 30 percentage points from 2012. What to do? Kill the messenger, of course.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:16 pm to CollegeFBRules
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the best education initiative this country has seen in decades.
how the hell do you even know this? true results won't be seen for another 10 to 15 years
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:20 pm to Choctaw
Here is something else to consider.
Jindal says Common Core is "federal overreach".
Yet, he, by himself, is trying to remove the state from something that was approved by many.
This is classic "governor overreach" if I ever saw it.
He is doing the exact thing he is accusing the feds of doing.
Jindal says Common Core is "federal overreach".
Yet, he, by himself, is trying to remove the state from something that was approved by many.
This is classic "governor overreach" if I ever saw it.
He is doing the exact thing he is accusing the feds of doing.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:20 pm to LSURussian
hey may be pandering, but it is definitely the right move
common core is terrible
common core is terrible
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:22 pm to Choctaw
So you guys are clearly trying to compete with Alabama and Mississippi on the dumbest state lists. We'll have none of those fancy educational standards either.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:23 pm to Choctaw
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how the hell do you even know this? true results won't be seen for another 10 to 15 years
Yeah, bingo bitch, you bought that hook, line, and sinker. So how can you hate it so?
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:30 pm to CollegeFBRules
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So how can you hate it so?
Because Bobby Jindal is awesome!
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:33 pm to ragincajun03
Republicans good, liberals bad.
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