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re: Pels trying to acquire a draft pick
Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:15 am to corndeaux
Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:15 am to corndeaux
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You talking about fans or the team?
Fans.
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Any move that further restricts them is likely a bad one for me.
(from Jester)They want to get rid of him at all costs, which is how bad decisions are made.
The thing is, the team would benefit greatly from adding another B player to the roster, and the best opportunity to do that by a large margin is with cap space before AD's extension kicks in. C assets are easy to acquire, so I would give up any and all of our C assets if it lead to getting a B asset, and for the most part getting a B asset means getting rid of Gordon at all costs (up to C level assets).
But what these rumors are suggesting to me isn't desperation by Demps, but Demps smelling an opportunity. Half the lottery wants to trade their picks which lowers the value, while the inflated value of the 2015 picks are still untarnished and intact. On top of that both the trade and FA market for SG is pretty thin this year, opening up a potential window for Gordon to be overvalued by a team.
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(Jester)Maybe he would resign on a decent contract. People are irrational with Gordon, though.
Just because people are irrational, doesn't mean they're wrong. Morrow + Rivers for $6-$7 > Gordon for $6-$7 IMO. Those 2 players give you better scoring, shooting, penetration and defense than Gordon alone.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:25 am to TigerinATL
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Those 2 players give you better scoring, shooting, penetration and defense than Gordon alone.
The problem is that Morrow can't defend and you can't count on Rivers offensively. Gordon gives you some balance of the two, so I'm not sure that I agree with your assessment.
ETA - Shedding Gordon is one thing. Taking back a longer bad contract is something entirely different. Demps' history doesn't give me a good feeling about that.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:47 pm to TigerinATL
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the team would benefit greatly from adding another B player to the roster
Of course. Same time though how many B guys can we expect to be on one roster? They've got 4 right now. That they don't make for a straightforward fit (and were injured) is the problem, not a lack of talent.
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best opportunity to do that by a large margin is with cap space before AD's extension kicks in
Yep. Which is why the combo of Holiday and Evans moves and not unloading Gordon bothers me. Demps bet on it working or still being able to move one of those guys. Jury is still out on that thought.
But they've got <$30M for 2016/17 guaranteed right now. That will obviously go up some, but they look to have massive room as Davis starts his prime. They can renounce Gordon if it comes to that and clear up a lot of space heading into FA.
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But what these rumors are suggesting to me isn't desperation by Demps, but Demps smelling an opportunity
He should be shopping Gordon to see if he can pull off a good deal. But I don't think the dream deal is out there. Golden State had to give up 4 picks (2 1sts, 2 2nds) to dump dead salaries to a resetting Utah. Gordon is more useful than any of those players, but I can't imagine the Pelicans not having to sweeten the pot to get someone to bite on him and his contract at this point.
Yet, if we take this in concert with the Evans/Gordon rumors from the winter, the clear issue with Evans role/playing time, the team's repeated stated desire to find a 2 way big and add a starting caliber SF, Demps potentially on the hot seat, and Monty/Dell not on the same page w/ the roster, it's not unreasonable to speculate that these are course correction/panic moves.
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