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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:24 pm to jimbeam
Question- would the fracking be more targeted north of I12 or S?
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:27 pm to Bushwackers
IIRC, that property is north of I-12 a mile or two past the new school
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:53 pm to BoudinJoe
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The report was from Penn State. It was merely posted on the EID website.
Actually by a Penn State professor, not by Penn State.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:08 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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These are the same "conservative Republicans"
That doesn't mean that the vocal opponents of the fracking in those meetings were Republicans. I saw pictures with granola looking old women holding up signs about "big oil."
Now, if they are going to start taking oil from under the land that I own, I'm going to bitch until they cut me in on some of the money. There is nothing wrong with that.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:37 am to Jake88
It's very strange to me now. When did the Leftists obtain this monopoly on environmental issues? When did the Right abandon them? IMO Reps/Cons have more of a sincere rapport with nature than Libs yet we have allowed ourselves (or made ourselves) to be painted as anti-environment and the Libs as the saviors of the environment. WTF?
quote:That is at the heart of it. How many people that support it have or hope to have a direct stake in it? In this thread? The answer is very telling.
Now, if they are going to start taking oil from under the land that I own, I'm going to bitch until they cut me in on some of the money. There is nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:38 am to La Place Mike
quote:But in no way in the degree that has occurred in the last 5 years.
Not really. Fracking has been going on since the forties.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:42 am to C
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Most likely died of asphyxiation due to displacement of oxygen rather than some type of poisonous effect.
fricking liar. You made that up or were too stupid to comprehend the article. quote:
At least four workers have died since 2010, apparently from acute chemical exposures during flowback operations, which involve transferring, storing and measuring fluids that return to the surface after fracking, NIOSH said in a blog post.
The institute assessed worker exposure to other chemicals mixed into fluids that are injected into the earth during fracking, said Max Kiefer, director of NIOSH Western States Office. Those findings will be detailed in later publications, including a peer-reviewed case study this summer, Kiefer said.
“But right now, the exposures of concern from a worker standpoint are from endogenous hydrocarbons that can be emitted from returned flowback fluids, not from other chemicals,” Kiefer told Bloomberg BNA May 19.
NIOSH highlighted how little is known about the potential health hazards associated with fracking, such as chemical exposure, in contrast to the well-developed knowledge about safety hazards from accidents common to oil and gas extraction.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:43 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:Your "property" while you sit your fat arse in Baton Rouge.
You're not far from me. I would welcome a well on my property on Turnpike anytime as well.
What a risk you're taking there.Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:45 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:Meaningless distinction. It doesn't matter if the "technology" is safe, what matters is the degree of risk posed by the operations as carried out by people who are susceptible to human error.
In your articles they are referencing environmental spills, most likely poor cementing operations, and poor waste management. All of these things are not direct issues with frac'ing and more a issue with the people doing it or other operations.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:51 am to Jim Rockford
Bunk.
LINK
Chu is a Nobel prize-winning physicist and the same guy who said the goal was to raise gas prices to those of Europe. I'm pretty sure he's no friend of the gas/oil industry. Moniz is a very highly regarded physicist as well.
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Two former high-profile members of President Obama's cabinet are reassuring the public that hydraulic fracturing —fracking — is a safe technology for extracting oil and natural gas.
"This is something you can do in a safe way,” former Secretary of Energy Steven Chu said while speaking in Columbus, Ohio, on Sept. 18. He also said that it was a “false choice” to say that the country can either preserve the environment or acquire cheap natural gas.
More than 1,000 miles away, former Interior Secretary Ken Salazar was singing the same tune.
“I would say to everybody that hydraulic fracking is safe,” Salazar said during a conference in Las Cruces, N.M. He said that fracking was “creating an energy revolution in the United States.”
Chu and Salazar joined current Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz, who in early September praised fracking as “a big contributor to our carbon reduction” and “a huge economic benefit.”
LINK
Chu is a Nobel prize-winning physicist and the same guy who said the goal was to raise gas prices to those of Europe. I'm pretty sure he's no friend of the gas/oil industry. Moniz is a very highly regarded physicist as well.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 12:52 am
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:53 am to USMCTiger03
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Rather, to me it's a big unknown with propaganda on both sides and not worth the risk in a residential setting.
You sure act angry for someone who admitted he doesn't know what in the hell he's talking about.
I don't understand what anti-fracking folks want to hear. There definitely are issues with certain disposal methods and air quality, but that's been a problem with every plant, refinery, construction project, etc. since the industrial revolution kicked off. Part of life living in these areas. And methods are improving and regulations are tightening every day.
The pros outweigh the cons, simple as that.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 6:14 am to USMCTiger03
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Your "property" while you sit your fat arse in Baton Rouge. What a risk you're taking there.
That property has been in my family since before the Civil War, and my family has been in that area since shortly after the Revolution. We have a house on the property and spend quite a bit of time over there. I would say I'm taking a considerable risk.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:15 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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That property has been in my family since before the Civil War, and my family has been in that area since shortly after the Revolution. We have a house on the property and spend quite a bit of time over there. I would say I'm taking a considerable risk.
Pretentious Alert.
Funny though, your answer changes nothing. 
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:17 am to USMCTiger03
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fricking liar. You made that up or were too stupid to comprehend the article.
You have no clue what you are talking about. None.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:22 am to Sun God
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This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 7:23 am
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:30 am to JakeRyan
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Pretentious Alert. Funny though, your answer changes nothing.
If you say so.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 7:32 am
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:41 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I just recently moved to St. Tammany. I find the majority of people here to be bandwagon jumping vanilla nightmares who are the adult equivalent to the cool clique in high school. Of course, I've met some awesome people. But, they're all transplants, too. This shite makes me laugh.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:41 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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That property has been in my family since before the Civil War, and my family has been in that area since shortly after the Revolution. We have a house on the property and spend quite a bit of time over there. I would say I'm taking a considerable risk.
I'm waiting for you to drop the LLC bomb.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:53 am to urinetrouble
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I'm waiting for you to drop the LLC bomb.
My point to the OP is that I'm not some vacant landowner who simply sits back and reaps financial reward from my land. I wasn't trying to be "pretentious" as some other poster called me, but merely making the point I'm not an absentee with only a fiduciary interest in the property.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 7:57 am
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