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re: Athletic program goals and coaches at LSU

Posted on 6/4/14 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 5:53 pm to
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LSU should be in Omaha almost every year, IMO. Those are the expectations. Best recruiting, best stadium, best fans, best facilities. I think it's OK to expect that.


So Miles should be in the BCS every year, likely meaning he wins the SEC every year or hopes for an at-large

because that is the football equivalent to making it to Omaha.

Note: The most successful active coach in making it to Omaha since CPM took over at LSU is Mike Fox for UNC and he has only made it 4 times. That is half of the time. CPM is 3/8 with one national championships.
Omaha is making the final 8. LSU has 7 national titles since 91, which is more than anyone in football or basketball over that same period.
Would you say Duke, Kentucky etc would expect to make the Elite 8 in basketball every year? I would. How many titles have they won over that same period?
If you want to talk football, then go with Ohio State or Alabama (or USC when there isn't suspensions)... and yes, their expectation is to make it to a BCS level bowl every season. That is the level they have established within the sport, and they are doing it at a lesser level than LSU established in baseball.

edited- ok, 6 then. Still, we're talking unprecedented dominance within the sport. It's unreasonable to ask that you continue WINNING THE TITLE at that pace, but to continue to go should be basically understood.

South Carolina won some titles, that's like Florida rising up to challenge Kentucky in basketball. If a team in your conference is good enough to bump LSU off the top, it should be good enough to challenge/win the CWS. Anything less, like saying "we want to be a good team" is conceding your place.

It's like saying Miami football is fine with going to bowls, because the ACC is tougher; and that somehow the program is still on the same grounds it was before. Truth is, Miami was a perennial national championship contender, and they've fallen way off. They now can't sniff the jocks of programs like Bama.
Do we want to be Miami football? Or do we still strive for the level we had achieved?
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 6:03 pm
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 5:57 pm to
There's a big difference between expecting something and considering the season a failure when it doesn't happen.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:04 pm to
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LSU has 7 national titles since 91


stop saying 7 it is 6

LSU won in 1991 1993 1996 1997 2000 2009

But there is no denying that the run LSU made in the 90s may be one of the greatest runs in spots since probably the 1980s. Anything before the 1980s in college sports really isn't a fair comparison the competition was nothing compared to what we have seen from that the 80s if not the 90s on. The closest we saw a team come to that in the modern era of college baseball was Tanner and the South Carolina Gamecocks, making it to the national championship series 3 straight years winning it twice losing once. South Carolina hasn't been back since losing in 2012. They also had a 5 year drought of making it to omaha. No-one would question that Ray Tanner was one of the greatest coaches in Modern college baseball. He made it to Oamah a total of 6 times in 15 years. CPM is about this pace.

If one of the greatest coaches in Modern college baseball doesn't make it to Omaha every year, why does LSU?

Every team will go through ups and downs. Cal State fullerton almost didn't make the tourney this year, UNC didn't make the tourney this year. UNC could jump back into being a contender next year. UNC has as high as expectations as LSU does for CPM.

the 90s will never happen again for any school. Using that as the bar is unrealistic. CPM is doing a good job, he makes mistakes yes, so does Nick Saban and all praise him as the greatest coach in college football history.

CPM is what is needed for LSU baseball.

oh and so in Miles. (even though I would love to see him take another job, he brings success yes but he just makes us all to nervous.)
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 6:06 pm
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